What's the basis for alt-right's Christianity?

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Jewish (Canaanite) god Jehovah
Jehovah is a aggregated Catholic name from the 1200s, and the letter 'J' didn't exist in English yet until the 1600s .
Canaanite gods were merely avatars of the Ishtar cult, and involved child sacrifice, sex acts, etc as forms of worship.
 

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You really need to study more instead of posting ridiculous statements like this.
Ancient Greeks generally regarded as white lived in Egypt, this is long known. Jesus spoke Greek. Did those Greeks take a plane and land at Cairo airport?


Sure looks like Abraham came from Aryan India.
Have fun with this.
http://www.viewzone.com/abraham2.html
The reason I specifically said “Northern European” was precisely to avoid all the “Indo-Aryan” gobbledygook and distinguish between most of us and Greeks. Of course, saying “Jesus spoke Greek” (his primary language was most likely Aramaic) is no more dispositive of his ethnic identity - particularly in such a heavily trafficked part of the world - than also noting that he spoke Hebrew, or that the Romans occupying Judea during His time on earth conducted their local business in Greek, or that an Irishman today may spend most of his time speaking English.

There’s often been a genetic difference - more often in ancient times - between the people ruling a place and those generally populating it. Your own “we wuz King Tut” link (and yes, he was Greek, as was his whole line) acknowledges this: his DNA which is shared by 50% of Europeans is simultaneously present in just 1% of modern Egyptians. Had he been representative of the whole population of Egypt 3000 years ago, and not just a small ruling elite, that latter percentage would be much higher today.

That same article notes the likely point of commonality - and that’s all we’re talking about, a small area of commonality based on a relative handful of genes - was in the Caucasus some 9k years ago. So by your own line there was at least some 6k years of divergence between Tut and any of his far-flung European contemporaries.

But you create more problems for yourself when you make these links. If the Egyptians at the time of Exodus - either the mass of them, or just the ruling class - were trve Evroprans, and the Jews/Hebrews/Hyksos/slaves were genetically very distinct from them, as they are described, then how are those people of Moses (let alone the even more ancient tribes of Israel) also your trve Evroprans? Once you contort yourself into claiming “Whites wuz Israelites” in anything other than a metaphorical or spiritual sense, you open up a can of worms. The only reason you have to make those contortions, however, is because you have chosen to take the Scripture literally, and it includes things like Jesus saying “I am here for the house of Israel”, which you then also take literally (to mean genetically).

I mean, if He is genetically our God, why would he single out this one small faction of what you note is a vast swath of people (with varying ancient religious traditions) and territory (again, to varying degrees of occupation) we covered, even then? Why send his Son to Judea, and not the Rhineland, the Alps, the Caucasus, or - most relevant to your analysis - any part of Greece? If “Israel” means “White people”, only a tiny part of our time has been spent and our history unfolded in the Levant, and it certainly wasn’t the beginning. So why did He choose then and there?

I think Christianity has been hugely beneficial for Europeans, and Europeans have been hugely beneficial for Christianity. I disdain clashes between Christian and non-Christian pro-Whites, because they are largely the result of the former failing to appreciate how much existing European tradition shaped Christianity as it spread throughout the continent, and the latter failing to appreciate how much the Faith has done for our race. There was a time when “Christendom” simply meant “the White world”. While that was our common understanding, both our race and Christianity reached their zeniths (thus far) together.

But the Christianity which achieved this was not a Fundamentalist form of it, because Christian Fundamentalism (taking scripture literally) and White racialism are inherently contradictory, requiring all of the “we wuz literally Israelites” contortions noted above. We can (and should) adopt Christianity wholesale, but understand that while its lessons are concrete, most of its stories are metaphorical (we know Creation wasn’t done in seven literal days, etc. ad infinitum). We should understand that claiming the teachings of Christ as being uniquely intended for people like us (as they clearly are) doesn’t also require us to claim a genetic link to the tribes of the Old Testament.

Whether one arrived here through racialism first and then found Christianity, or was fortunate enough to have always had Christianity in his life and avoided the modern pozz constantly attacking it, I remain incredulous in the face of people here who want to claim a racial link to “Jews”, no matter how ancient. I find it all the more puzzling when it comes from those clearly versed enough in scripture to know what vile people the Israelites of the OT were. There is absolutely no racial legacy there we should want to claim, and there is absolutely nothing compelling us to do so, unless you have willfully walled yourself in by interpreting the Bible literally.
 
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what resemblance do you see?
I’ve seen those images the dozen other times you’ve posted them in this thread, and read everything you’ve written. Almost none of it made sense to me, which is why I haven’t engaged you at all. Stating the same stuff over again and addressing it to me directly does nothing to enhance my understanding of whatever it is you’re on about, or my willingness to pursue it further.
 

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I know if I go back I will find you making the Abraham is color white argument.
I haven't made that argument directly but I'd be glad to. I did say that Adam was the first White man. Like I said earlier the name Adam means ruddy, the ability to blush, to show blood in the face etc.

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I haven't made that argument directly but I'd be glad to. I did say that Adam was the first White man. Like I said earlier the name Adam means ruddy, the ability to blush, to show blood in the face etc.

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my argument is:
1. Abrahamic text, as they exist now and from what we know now, are symbolic fiction not historical records or anything close to historical
2. The temple tradition still practiced within this doctrine is foreign and comparatively antithetical to European ontology and epistemology. Its origins are Egypt and Babylon from the Bronze Age. It presupposes a spiritual realm separate from the natural world that can only be known through messengers of god that are worshiped and followed as leaders. The practice of intuiting knowledge is considered by this temple tradition to be "magic" (hence "Philosopher's Stone") and is considered a "sin" for those who are not given permission (priests). This tradition denies the agency of its followers and therefore will never be accepted by European people without force or deception and never has. This is why the Cult of Progress was invented, to carry the Abrahamic tradition into the modern world and it is failing which is why they have to censor us.
3. Abrahamic text is an ancient form of political propaganda to justify the legitimacy of political rule. The myth of Jesus was constructed around 400-500 AD to fulfill the purpose of political propaganda which is why it was made to correlate with previous known salvation myths such as: Odin, Mithra, Dionysus, Horus...
4. The story of the NT was falsely compiled and attributed to one person to falsely fulfill the prophecies of the OT because it is true that submitting to OT doctrine will eventually result in a spiritual revelation to challenge or replace it. This is a very very easy prediction, which is really not even a prediction, because it happened many many times frequently, and these people we executed publicly just like the story says. There was even a record of a person by the name of Joshua around 100 BC who was executed in Judae after returning from Egypt for the accusation of practicing "Black Magic" or philosophy. This has nothing to do with Jesus because so many people were executed for this it is likely many were named Joshua.
5. The story of the NT was constructed to prevent the rise of a new leader that would challenge the dynasty that consolidated under Constantine after brutal civil conflict and instability. This civil conflict was likely not very civil and more likely an invasion since a large percentage of Rome was occupied by people not from Europe. The result of this "civil conflict" likely ended with Europe being occupied by foreign Bronze Age royal dynasties and merchants who forced their temple tradition on all of Europe. (see Babylonian Woe)
6. Jews are fake. Not a race, not a people, not even close. (see The Great Jewish Masque)
7. Believing anything #1-6 is in any way remotely beneficial to European people is absurd.
8. Believing anything #1-6 is required to practice a spirituality conducive to an enlightened state of being for non Semitic people is totally unjustified after the Bronze Age empires collapsed, or anytime really.
9. Believing anything #1-6 will grant you legitimacy to do anything but be a slave to foreign people is deceiving yourself unless you are an agent of some royal dynasty who sold their people like slaves to merchants (assuming you are not just a deceiver yourself)
10. Color white is not an identity and just sounds ignorant like a slave proud of his chains. The genetic mesh that distinguishes European people from the rest of the world is far better identified by their ancient tradition of language which can be observed today in how we derive truth expressed in the institutions we control; our uncorrupted form of ontological and epistemological tradition which can, should, and must be upheld by any and all means necessary
11. #10 is where the real struggle exists. This is where it begins and ends. It is the most practical means by which we can accomplish political outcomes because Metaphysics Precedes Politics and Realigion Is The Poetry Of Politics

Feel free engage with any of these but please do provide reason for your claim up to and including how such a thing will result in successful political outcomes as I have done.

The Shabbos Principal:
The very second anyone attempts to analyze the true origins of Christianity, the shabbos will identify himself by: identifying the European characteristics of Christianity that were incorporated into its tradition with a foreign Abrahamic text.
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I haven't made that argument directly but I'd be glad to. I did say that Adam was the first White man. Like I said earlier the name Adam means ruddy, the ability to blush, to show blood in the face etc.

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There is so much fallacy I can't even find relevance
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my argument is:
1. Abrahamic text, as they exist now and from what we know now, are symbolic fiction not historical records or anything close to historical
2. The temple tradition still practiced within this doctrine is foreign and comparatively antithetical to European ontology and epistemology. Its origins are Egypt and Babylon from the Bronze Age. It presupposes a spiritual realm separate from the natural world that can only be known through messengers of god that are worshiped and followed as leaders. The practice of intuiting knowledge is considered by this temple tradition to be "magic" (hence "Philosopher's Stone") and is considered a "sin" for those who are not given permission (priests). This tradition denies the agency of its followers and therefore will never be accepted by European people without force or deception and never has. This is why the Cult of Progress was invented, to carry the Abrahamic tradition into the modern world and it is failing which is why they have to censor us.
3. Abrahamic text is an ancient form of political propaganda to justify the legitimacy of political rule. The myth of Jesus was constructed around 400-500 AD to fulfill the purpose of political propaganda which is why it was made to correlate with previous known salvation myths such as: Odin, Mithra, Dionysus, Horus...
4. The story of the NT was falsely compiled and attributed to one person to falsely fulfill the prophecies of the OT because it is true that submitting to OT doctrine will eventually result in a spiritual revelation to challenge or replace it. This is a very very easy prediction, which is really not even a prediction, because it happened many many times frequently, and these people we executed publicly just like the story says. There was even a record of a person by the name of Joshua around 100 BC who was executed in Judae after returning from Egypt for the accusation of practicing "Black Magic" or philosophy. This has nothing to do with Jesus because so many people were executed for this it is likely many were named Joshua.
5. The story of the NT was constructed to prevent the rise of a new leader that would challenge the dynasty that consolidated under Constantine after brutal civil conflict and instability. This civil conflict was likely not very civil and more likely an invasion since a large percentage of Rome was occupied by people not from Europe. The result of this "civil conflict" likely ended with Europe being occupied by foreign Bronze Age royal dynasties and merchants who forced their temple tradition on all of Europe. (see Babylonian Woe)
6. Jews are fake. Not a race, not a people, not even close. (see The Great Jewish Masque)
7. Believing anything #1-6 is in any way remotely beneficial to European people is absurd.
8. Believing anything #1-6 is required to practice a spirituality conducive to an enlightened state of being for non Semitic people is totally unjustified after the Bronze Age empires collapsed, or anytime really.
9. Believing anything #1-6 will grant you legitimacy to do anything but be a slave to foreign people is deceiving yourself unless you are an agent of some royal dynasty who sold their people like slaves to merchants (assuming you are not just a deceiver yourself)
10. Color white is not an identity and just sounds ignorant like a slave proud of his chains. The genetic mesh that distinguishes European people from the rest of the world is far better identified by their ancient tradition of language which can be observed today in how we derive truth expressed in the institutions we control; our uncorrupted form of ontological and epistemological tradition which can, should, and must be upheld by any and all means necessary
11. #10 is where the real struggle exists. This is where it begins and ends. It is the most practical means by which we can accomplish political outcomes because Metaphysics Precedes Politics and Realigion Is The Poetry Of Politics

Feel free engage with any of these but please do provide reason for your claim up to and including how such a thing will result in successful political outcomes as I have done.

The Shabbos Principal:
The very second anyone attempts to analyze the true origins of Christianity, the shabbos will identify himself by: identifying the European characteristics of Christianity that were incorporated into its tradition with a foreign Abrahamic text.
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That's what I thought
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I haven't made that argument directly but I'd be glad to. I did say that Adam was the first White man. Like I said earlier the name Adam means ruddy, the ability to blush, to show blood in the face etc.

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Here we have a cartoon frog with a swastika tattoo, in the lotus, preaching for Abraham. lol holy fucking shit. It's too much
 

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There is so much fallacy I can't even find relevance
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my argument is:
1. Abrahamic text, as they exist now and from what we know now, are symbolic fiction not historical records or anything close to historical
2. The temple tradition still practiced within this doctrine is foreign and comparatively antithetical to European ontology and epistemology. Its origins are Egypt and Babylon from the Bronze Age. It presupposes a spiritual realm separate from the natural world that can only be known through messengers of god that are worshiped and followed as leaders. The practice of intuiting knowledge is considered by this temple tradition to be "magic" (hence "Philosopher's Stone") and is considered a "sin" for those who are not given permission (priests). This tradition denies the agency of its followers and therefore will never be accepted by European people without force or deception and never has. This is why the Cult of Progress was invented, to carry the Abrahamic tradition into the modern world and it is failing which is why they have to censor us.
3. Abrahamic text is an ancient form of political propaganda to justify the legitimacy of political rule. The myth of Jesus was constructed around 400-500 AD to fulfill the purpose of political propaganda which is why it was made to correlate with previous known salvation myths such as: Odin, Mithra, Dionysus, Horus...
4. The story of the NT was falsely compiled and attributed to one person to falsely fulfill the prophecies of the OT because it is true that submitting to OT doctrine will eventually result in a spiritual revelation to challenge or replace it. This is a very very easy prediction, which is really not even a prediction, because it happened many many times frequently, and these people we executed publicly just like the story says. There was even a record of a person by the name of Joshua around 100 BC who was executed in Judae after returning from Egypt for the accusation of practicing "Black Magic" or philosophy. This has nothing to do with Jesus because so many people were executed for this it is likely many were named Joshua.
5. The story of the NT was constructed to prevent the rise of a new leader that would challenge the dynasty that consolidated under Constantine after brutal civil conflict and instability. This civil conflict was likely not very civil and more likely an invasion since a large percentage of Rome was occupied by people not from Europe. The result of this "civil conflict" likely ended with Europe being occupied by foreign Bronze Age royal dynasties and merchants who forced their temple tradition on all of Europe. (see Babylonian Woe)
6. Jews are fake. Not a race, not a people, not even close. (see The Great Jewish Masque)
7. Believing anything #1-6 is in any way remotely beneficial to European people is absurd.
8. Believing anything #1-6 is required to practice a spirituality conducive to an enlightened state of being for non Semitic people is totally unjustified after the Bronze Age empires collapsed, or anytime really.
9. Believing anything #1-6 will grant you legitimacy to do anything but be a slave to foreign people is deceiving yourself unless you are an agent of some royal dynasty who sold their people like slaves to merchants (assuming you are not just a deceiver yourself)
10. Color white is not an identity and just sounds ignorant like a slave proud of his chains. The genetic mesh that distinguishes European people from the rest of the world is far better identified by their ancient tradition of language which can be observed today in how we derive truth expressed in the institutions we control; our uncorrupted form of ontological and epistemological tradition which can, should, and must be upheld by any and all means necessary
11. #10 is where the real struggle exists. This is where it begins and ends. It is the most practical means by which we can accomplish political outcomes because Metaphysics Precedes Politics and Realigion Is The Poetry Of Politics

Feel free engage with any of these but please do provide reason for your claim up to and including how such a thing will result in successful political outcomes as I have done.

The Shabbos Principal:
The very second anyone attempts to analyze the true origins of Christianity, the shabbos will identify himself by: identifying the European characteristics of Christianity that were incorporated into its tradition with a foreign Abrahamic text.
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So, skimming through my thread, you're the guy who hijacked it for the last 10 pages or so, lol.

Yeah the fallacy thing happens whenever you discuss religion. Generally it's useless to discuss as people's minds are already made up (one way or another), hence why I do it rarely, and when I do, I don't expect much.

I agree with your points 1-2 and even Christians should be able to admit that far, to ignore or even worse, deny the existence of all the contradictions in the bible which would invalidate it as a serious set of instructions for anything is bad enough, but when you add the fact that it's been passed through generations going back thousands of years, the idea that it hasn't been meddled with and is still the original word of God... really there isn't much to argue here, if people don't see anything wrong with it on their own you're unlikely to change their mind.

The rest is whatever, might or might not be, 6 is a... weird statement to make, and 10 is absurd

Language and abstract things like ontology and epistemology are not the primary signifiers of whiteness. That would be physical appearance (of which the color white is a part of) and soul (manifested physically via art, architecture, clothing, etc.).
 

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So, skimming through my thread, you're the guy who hijacked it for the last 10 pages or so, lol.

Yeah the fallacy thing happens whenever you discuss religion. Generally it's useless to discuss as people's minds are already made up (one way or another), hence why I do it rarely, and when I do, I don't expect much.

I agree with your points 1-2 and even Christians should be able to admit that far, to ignore or even worse, deny the existence of all the contradictions in the bible which would invalidate it as a serious set of instructions for anything is bad enough, but when you add the fact that it's been passed through generations going back thousands of years, the idea that it hasn't been meddled with and is still the original word of God... really there isn't much to argue here, if people don't see anything wrong with it on their own you're unlikely to change their mind.

The rest is whatever, might or might not be, 6 is a... weird statement to make, and
This is fair. 1-2 is what I would expect any honest person to agree with. As for the rest it must be understood that history is perceived by humans through human knowledge. The fact of it being implies interpretation of possible truth by positive assertion.

6. Jews are fake. Not a race, not a people, not even close. (see The Great Jewish Masque)
6 is a... weird statement to make
Let us take what the text says, that suddenly by sacred holy Babylonian "magic", a mysterious desert tribe became the most sacred chosen people because the God they made up said so, and this is the single greatest feature that defines who they are. Also that there is little record even to provide lineage of these people to those that claim this title now. Which is what it is, a title, but to me an enormous shit test.

10 is absurd

Language and abstract things like ontology and epistemology are not the primary signifiers of whiteness. That would be physical appearance (of which the color white is a part of) and soul (manifested physically via art, architecture, clothing, etc.).
I understand the confusion but this is entirely wrong. Take for example how those that identify as "jew" define themselves to be Semitic when held to judgment (Semitic being a language group). What color ethnicity is a jew? This is something they would never allow, because this form of identification is the mark they place on a beast. They do know how to be correctly identified though, even though most do not speak a Semitic language and do not share this lineage. Something is a little fishy here to say the least. The book suggested is important to understand this entirety.

Why language is an important signifier for identity is simple. It is the means by which any person will identify its significance! The words abstracted to communicate this should not be confused with the truth being communicated. To understand why this is the most authentic correlation one only needs to ask, "Why is there more language than one"? The origins of the diversity of language is congruent with the genesis of ethnicity where by people self organize as institution to express truth unique to their evolution. This is the principal we agree upon in #2. It is not easy to understand but it is the most important which is why I make such a big deal out of it.

Now ask yourself, with all the resources, technology, and manpower, "why does this not hold significance to the objectives of right wing organizers"? Why insist on adopting the labels and stereotypes constructed to place barriers in front of successful outcomes? It is almost as if the propaganda of an adversary exists within expressions of the people being targeted. Who is doing this?
 

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Generally it's useless to discuss as people's minds are already made up (one way or another), hence why I do it rarely, and when I do, I don't expect much.
This is where we disagree. Nothing political will ever be accomplished in "grass-roots movements" until this is properly addressed. This is why I say, "metaphysics precedes politics". The disregard for it is why nothing ever does get accomplished in "grass-roots movements". If you have been around long enough you will recognize yourself that this is the greatest point of division amplified by suppressors. They achieve this by planting ideologically irreconcilable advocators along group demarcations. Both will point to their sentimental attachments as reason to never discuss them, a clear contradiction to say the least. They will criticize the post modern state of nihilism by embodying all its most significant features. I say, take a look around and ask, "what is being done here?" It is absolutely pathetic
 
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