What is the deal with Matt Heimbach becoming a luciferian anti-racist shape shifter?

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As an extremist I wish I could be as extreme as Heimbach. From one extreme to another, the height of his extremity seems to have no limits. I eagerly await to receive his wise teachings of what normal should be as I'm sure it will be a new type of extreme I never knew existed.
 

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Fat Heimbach tried to sell himself to the System his entire life, but no one was buying.
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He wanted to sell himself as a jewish bootlicker, but you get those on american campus for a dime a dozend. Then he reinvented himself as a costume nazi to up his market value, so he thought, as a potential ex-something so that his jewish bootlicking would have added value when it came from an ex-costume nazi, when its just what he did his entire pseudo-carrer.

I think people should not overestimate heimbach as an agent provocateur who was given a mission by jews or whoever to play this role according to a script, i think people need to confront the situation that people like this who are midwits with no talents still want to be in some position of power and they do a song and dance act for the powers that be in the hopes for a crumb of power, either as a buerocrat or as a moral authority of some kind. There is no difference in this between some catlady teacher or Heimbach and the rest of his shitty crowd of fake and failed people.
Crazy video. Thanks for sharing.
 

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so of course they start to look for ways out.
Thats it.
They want to walk away from it since its not keeping dinner on the table no more and they only know one way they can, by going against everything they said and in the ugliest way possible.
 

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In a best case scenario Heimbach puts together something that gives these RINOs and Wall Street a shock that will make them regret ignoring our wishes while they had FULL control of Congress and no excuses for giving us what put America First.
Heimburger already tried 'putting something together'. It ended with him selling blood to pay the rent. He's a fat retard who's incapable of building anything near what you're describing. The best he's capable of accomplishing is winning over a few trailer trash wignats to communism, nothing more.

None of the modern day commie movement are capable of getting shit done, for that matter. Seriously, does anyone honestly think that the troons that listen to Chapo Trapo House are going to bring about a fucking "worker's revolution"? They have a psychotic meltdown when someone calls them a faggot, for fucks sake. You hand these degenerates a gun, and the first thing they'll do is turn it onto themselves. The actual 'working class' fucking hates them and their dumb movement, just go look at how bad Jeremy Corbyn got cucked recently if you don't believe me.
 

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Heimburger already tried 'putting something together'. It ended with him selling blood to pay the rent. He's a fat retard who's incapable of building anything near what you're describing. The best he's capable of accomplishing is winning over a few trailer trash wignats to communism, nothing more.

None of the modern day commie movement are capable of getting shit done, for that matter. Seriously, does anyone honestly think that the troons that listen to Chapo Trapo House are going to bring about a fucking "worker's revolution"? They have a psychotic meltdown when someone calls them a faggot, for fucks sake. You hand these degenerates a gun, and the first thing they'll do is turn it onto themselves. The actual 'working class' fucking hates them and their dumb movement, just go look at how bad Jeremy Corbyn got cucked recently if you don't believe me.

All probably correct. But like I said let him try his grand opposition coalition. Does us no harm, and can probably only benefit us any way you turn it.
 

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The only problem is if Heimbach continues to be toxic and is going to take nationalism-left through the mud too, because nationalism-left is hardly a bad strategy. I mean consider the facts. Nationalism going left is the left's greatest fear.

Does "nationalism-left" even exist outside a few fringe groups and is there a path to success for it? I can't even think of any former regime or successful party that could be considered nationalist and leftist. By that I mean that the regime or party was nationalist and socially conservative to a degree that would have been unusual at the time.


Another problem is how those groups relate to the larger leftist movement. Tankies are shunned by the modern left and Nazbols don't seem to have connections to the left at all. Nazbols always seem to be obsessed with converting people who are already nationalists and if they try to talk with leftists, they come across as pathetic, as they beg their comrades to please hear them out.


The modern left is defined by its belief in the original sin of racism and "white supremacy". Economics is usually not a big issue because everyone already believes in muh Third Position(TM) of mixed economics. The economic difference between a left-wing and right-wing government is 2% on your taxes. The big battles happen on social and cultural issues.


Before you can convert a leftist, you have to convince him that white people aren't pure evil or unfairly privileged. Heimbach and Stryker don't do that. They just talk about muh workers and attack Jews and "capitalists". Often, it seems like they are giving legitimacy to the anti-white narratives, but just shift the blame on "capitalists" and Jews. And how can they even introduce the JQ to a leftist? Most people in this thing were red pilled on Jewish behavior because Jews were on the forefront of communism, the sexual revolution, atheism and feminism. But would a leftist be outraged by any of that?


The woke left was freaking out about it a few weeks ago when it appeared Trump was going to do UBI and carry Bernie's Thunder.
Lol, of course the left was scared because they are retarded enough to think that UBI, aka "pumping trillions into the economy and somehow not experiencing massive perpetual inflation", could actually work and that muh economy types like Trump would implement it.


In a best case scenario Heimbach puts together something that gives these RINOs and Wall Street a shock that will make them regret ignoring our wishes while they had FULL control of Congress and no excuses for giving us what put America First.

Heimbach won't do anything productive. Even if he genuinely believes in what he says now, he is still the same fat buffoon who has never had any success in his life.


As a former "face", he can do some damage. I wouldn't be surprised if he had some recordings and chatlogs. Perhaps he will use the credibility gained from those recordings and his former status to make up some damaging lies. If Heimbach is a grifter, then he will need a lot of fresh lies to keep the media and anti-white groups interested. If he is a fed, then he could be used to get this whole thing labelled as domestic terrorism. That's something they have been pushing for lately.
 

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And how can they even introduce the JQ to a leftist?
not going to play heimbach's advisor here but AIPAC Lobbyism or Infinitewars would be a start. Or federal reserve and banking, just how the system works, and the Rothschild family and what they did.
And from a historical angle, the slave trade.

who are already nationalists and if they try to talk with leftists, they come across as pathetic, as they beg their comrades to please hear them out
Would hope he would take to building bridges and finding common ground outside of where he has stomped, but you have a point. My analysis was based on hope that he was going to do more than talk with old allies over a beer. How do you expect to build bridges doing that? My guess is he has never reached across the line though and dissents only within his own circle and so you are probably right.


As a former "face", he can do some damage
true. I didn't mean in those terms though, and was referring to simply to him and his new brand, and what he does completely outside the scope of anything involving his former ppl


Does "nationalism-left" even exist outside a few fringe groups and is there a path to success
Nope, but It would basically be America first populism focused on economics and poor people rather than the identity of the people. Path to success seems all the more likely in view of everything likely to arrive in connection with the current shutdown. Read the thread of that first tweet in particular, but all of them are intriguing.

lots of room to explore where to go, but no guarantee he is able to figure anything out
 
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In a best case scenario Heimbach puts together something that gives these RINOs and Wall Street a shock that will make them regret ignoring our wishes while they had FULL control of Congress and no excuses for giving us what put America First.
I think you're maybe thinking of someone else.
The best he's capable of accomplishing is winning over a few trailer trash wignats to communism, nothing more.
No he couldn't do that. They banned him for being a subversive communist.

I think the leaks showed that when the cuckbox broke, his cult had two dozen members and $300.
 

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Another problem is how those groups relate to the larger leftist movement. Tankies are shunned by the modern left and Nazbols don't seem to have connections to the left at all. Nazbols always seem to be obsessed with converting people who are already nationalists and if they try to talk with leftists, they come across as pathetic, as they beg their comrades to please hear them out.
The entire purpose of nazbol is to try to convince right-wingers to support leftist economics because... because no one even knows why. It's bizarre and the whole thing looks like it's either designed to distract, confuse and annoy, or slowly get people where Hamback is in this video.

I have yet to hear of a single leftist ever being converted to nationalism because of nazbol. Not one. Ever. You have leftists who convert, obviously, but they do it for right-wing reasons, which never have anything to do with economics.

No one cares about economics. Leftists support multinational corporations because the corporations promote trannies. Rightists support Donald Trump's attacks on Reaganism. No one cares about any of this bullshit because it's just a bunch of dumb bullshit. People care about social issues. They only care about economics so much as economics means they have the ability to buy the things they want to buy.

The idea of having an "economic ideology" is fundamentally bizarre and autistic, which is why the biggest group that believes in that is always going to be libertarians. So the only other group is Nazbol, which is just autistic right-wingers going in a different direction with their dumb bullshit.

tl;dr: nazbol will never appeal to anyone but people who are already nazbol or people who are libertarians looking for some novel outlet for their autism. Ideology is stupid, economic ideology is like a sick joke. Leftists aren't going to be converted by talking about economics because they don't care about economics, other than in a practical way.
 

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I think you're maybe thinking of someone else.

No he couldn't do that. They banned him for being a subversive communist.

I think the leaks showed that when the cuckbox broke, his cult had two dozen members and $300.
I think that's always going to be the shocking thing to anybody involved in this shit in 2017 was how absolutely astroturfed TWP was. We all believed Hamback and his cuck-dad when they said they had 1,000 members and growing, we believed they were legitimately doing welder program nationalism, we really did give them the benefit of the doubt. So many of us were actually trying to HELP these guys on the 504um not be such a shit show, optically and otherwise.

I made a post the day before the Cuckbox outlining how they could rehabilitate their image and to stop being such a lolcow, and Parrott liked it and was interacting with me about the stuff I said. But he was a literal cuck, and I think the costume Nazi shit was Hamback and Stryker, so none of it would have ever happened.

It is so depressing in hindsight we wasted so much of our momentum on these broke lying nerds for absolutely nothing.
 

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Would hope he would take to building bridges and finding common ground outside of where he has stomped, but you have a point. My analysis was based on hope that he was going to do more than talk with old allies over a beer. How do you expect to build bridges don't that? My guess is he has never reached across the line.
Did you know who this guy was before right now?

Heimbach was just a fat costumed weirdo who the media made into a Hollywood type villain to try to attack Donald Trump. He's not some political player or grand strategist. Just a creepy fat guy who is best known as the guy who fucked his fat mother in law in a trailer.
 

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It is so depressing in hindsight we wasted so much of our momentum on these broke lying nerds for absolutely nothing.
It's not just momentum but time, energy and reputation.

As is known, I was always critical, but I tried to be a team player as much as I could. Looking back, it feels like I was a little kid. It's so obvious that this was all a kike plot. No one could ever legitimately believe it is a good idea to dress up in a Nazi costume and march around in the streets. Anyone who's doing that is doing it for malicious reasons, or because they have an anti-social personality disorder and are simply malicious by nature.
 

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I think that's always going to be the shocking thing to anybody involved in this shit in 2017 was how absolutely astroturfed TWP was. We all believed Hamback and his cuck-dad when they said they had 1,000 members and growing, we believed they were legitimately doing welder program nationalism, we really did give them the benefit of the doubt. So many of us were actually trying to HELP these guys on the 504um not be such a shit show, optically and otherwise.

I made a post the day before the Cuckbox outlining how they could rehabilitate their image and to stop being such a lolcow, and Parrott liked it and was interacting with me about the stuff I said. But he was a literal cuck, and I think the costume Nazi shit was Hamback and Stryker, so none of it would have ever happened.
I remember when TWP was at its high point, and I was downvoted into oblivion on the 504um for being critical of them. At least I triggered Heimbach by calling his overly emotional pleas for muh Palestineans "gay". I couldn't believe that serious people would make the mistakes that TWP made. Almost every mistake they made goes against common sense or just feels wrong.

I was glad when they were destroyed by the cuckbox, but unfortunately their ideology and behavior was never discredited or critically examined by most people in this thing. As a result, Stryker has been able to turn TRS into a Nazbol/fed freak show.

Speaking of Parrott, he seems to be involved in a project to help "political prisoners" on some shitty website. Listed on the site are Cantwell and "Rape" from Atomwaffen Division. They even have a cute category for "white allies".


 

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I think @Yourtwin18 is actually Matt Heimbach's sock account and he's trying to tell us Q style what his grand plan for redemption is.

Capitalism only succeeds where leftism fails
Leftists are being exploited
Capitalists will be a WN Phoenix
Where is Schoep? Watch Schoep
The ranch is dressed
The Cuckbox is broken
The STORM IS COMING
7/8/20
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I think that's always going to be the shocking thing to anybody involved in this shit in 2017 was how absolutely astroturfed TWP was. We all believed Hamback and his cuck-dad when they said they had 1,000 members and growing, we believed they were legitimately doing welder program nationalism, we really did give them the benefit of the doubt. So many of us were actually trying to HELP these guys on the 504um not be such a shit show, optically and otherwise.

I made a post the day before the Cuckbox outlining how they could rehabilitate their image and to stop being such a lolcow, and Parrott liked it and was interacting with me about the stuff I said. But he was a literal cuck, and I think the costume Nazi shit was Hamback and Stryker, so none of it would have ever happened.

It is so depressing in hindsight we wasted so much of our momentum on these broke lying nerds for absolutely nothing.
It's utterly mindblowing just how bad the infestation had gotten when the cuckbox came along. There was an entire group of people, from the Stormer forums to TRS to twitter to shitty 10-people forums like the purity spiral utterly convinced that anyone who didn't approve of fat retards bumblefucking through the streets in replica Hugo Boss outfits while sieg heiling was a civnat traitor cuck-in-cahoots-with-zog who was hellbent on destroying the 'mooovment'. Even to this day there's people like this, and no amount of pathetic wignat embarassments has got them to change their minds.

The entire purpose of nazbol is to try to convince right-wingers to support leftist economics because... because no one even knows why. It's bizarre and the whole thing looks like it's either designed to distract, confuse and annoy, or slowly get people where Hamback is in this video.
Nazbol promotion is the result of autists never having grown out of their commie phase when they were younger. Either that or they're just autists who glom onto any sort of extreme ideology to feel better about themselves. Like all other commies, none of them have the slightest bit of a clue on what they're talking about, and are in way over their heads when they start discussing economics with people. See: Striker getting manhandled by some cuck twitch streamer.
 
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Yeah, I'm sure he was speaking at meeting after meeting, wowing the crowds with his tales of choking bitches at MSU AND in his own trailer.

They ate that right up.
You totally nailed it Sabrina. The only thing better, would have been if Heimbach claimed he learned to "get honest" thanks to his African-American Sponsor.
 

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He attempts to associate the left-wing myth of "far right ultra-violence" with anyone who believes Whites have a right to exist as a collective group. That is one of the most leftist tactics one could engage in. It's an attempt to associate any form of White advocacy with violence against the eternally oppressed POCs. What a disingenuous scumbag.
 

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Yeah I noticed that. It's subversive the way he mentions it - like it's a given that White Nationalism = Doing Violence / Trying to Doing Violence. Many such cases!
 

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1. He's been going to AA meetings, which are the perfect place for narcissists. They rise to the top of the food chain pretty quickly over there.
I guess he "took the moral inventory" lol.
 
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