What is the deal with Matt Heimbach becoming a luciferian anti-racist shape shifter?

Andrew Anglin

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I didn't write about this because I couldn't figure out if it was an April Fool's joke.



So many questions, for example:

Why is the video recorded like that?

How did he manage to get fatter?

What is his goal?

Why does he believe all the exact same things and simply remove the term "white nationalist"? What does that say about all the other neo-Nazis who are communists and "anti-imperialist"? Does it say they are all two words from becoming antifa, or whatever this is?

Why is the organization called "Light Upon Light"? Why are reformed Nazis called "shape shifters"? Is this some kind of illuminati thing?

What actually is this organization? Who is running it?

Does he think he is going to get in on that Piccolioni money, or does he just think this will allow him to get a job as a welder?

That hairline...?

Many more questions than these exist.

Antifa is saying it's part of a neo-Nazi plot.




This is obviously a total vindication of everything I've said about these freaks.


So I will be writing about it sometime.

But right now I'm still just trying to understand it.


Thoughts.
 

CMcGillicutty

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What actually is this organization? Who is running it?
It's, ostensibly, run by a former al-qaeda recruiter by the name of Jesse Morton. Some links on Morton and "light upon light:"




Why is the organization called "Light Upon Light"?
Light upon light about page (linked above) claims the name is derived from a quranic verse.

How did he manage to get fatter?
Looks like he's got some serious water retention going on in his face. You can develop that from hitting the bottle, or drinking nothing but high sodium high fructose corn syrup.
 

Kalli

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This is so wtf. I mean seriously wtf.
He's a mess irl but the way he could attack a group of raging leftists from the leftist perspective to the point that they would actually connect and listen is a legitimate gift.
It'd be a damn shame if he's doing the whole 'I reversed my thoughts and am anti-racist now' for the measly $700 or whatever the SPLC is offering well known people to act like they found Jesus.
 

Harkon Ripsplitter

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Fat Heimbach tried to sell himself to the System his entire life, but no one was buying.
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He wanted to sell himself as a jewish bootlicker, but you get those on american campus for a dime a dozend. Then he reinvented himself as a costume nazi to up his market value, so he thought, as a potential ex-something so that his jewish bootlicking would have added value when it came from an ex-costume nazi, when its just what he did his entire pseudo-carrer.

I think people should not overestimate heimbach as an agent provocateur who was given a mission by jews or whoever to play this role according to a script, i think people need to confront the situation that people like this who are midwits with no talents still want to be in some position of power and they do a song and dance act for the powers that be in the hopes for a crumb of power, either as a buerocrat or as a moral authority of some kind. There is no difference in this between some catlady teacher or Heimbach and the rest of his shitty crowd of fake and failed people.
 

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Looks like he's got some serious water retention going on in his face. You can develop that from hitting the bottle, or drinking nothing but high sodium high fructose corn syrup.
He probably only drinks Mike's Hard Lemonade. Or Zima. Or whatever the new one is that I heard about recently. Some kind of sugary ladies drink.
 

Andrew Anglin

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He's a mess irl but the way he could attack a group of raging leftists from the leftist perspective to the point that they would actually connect and listen is an actual gift.
Which leftist listened to him and when?

Even if that did happen, what is the point of being more leftist than leftists? What is the end goal of that?
It'd be a damn shame
Why?
 

Steve

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Three things to remember about Heimbach:

1. He's been going to AA meetings, which are the perfect place for narcissists. They rise to the top of the food chain pretty quickly over there.

2. He's an attention whore. He will (and has) done anything to put himself in positions of notoriety.

3. He's sociopathic, so he craves situations where he can manipulate and dazzle.

This latest stunt is just another way for him to put himself in the spotlight. The upside to this video is that TRS & Co. will follow suit, not with similar declarations, but with a clear path to help the workers of the world unite and rid themselves of chains or something.

And by "workers" I mean people who are unemployable, drink too much, and who consider podcasts to be the highest form of art.
 

Saga

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5 month ago he was on a bowl patrol podcast where he talked about being friends again with Matt Parrott and trying to build up "pro white organizations". It's very strange... I think they somehow help him financially. It's a money gift... Or the pope might have bought him to destroy orthodox Christianity.
 
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Kalli

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I haven't seen anyone be able to talk to a crowd of raging antifa faggots and make them listen.. aside from him. Sure the dude is a fucked up, weird wannabe cult leader. But everyone now is looking for someone to follow. It's been the story of like the last two decades. Everyone is lost and leaderless and they know that everything is upside down.
That guy could talk to a crowd of people who were the enemy and give them pause by seeing the world through the lens that they themselves saw it through.
He's a weirdo, but we all have our place in this weird world.

Then again I see left/right as a false dichotomy itself, and more as a a D&C attempt. The world is tribal, not idealistic. He could help others see that too.
it would be a shame to see a weirdo with that strange sort of talent deny his ability and join the enemy. I guess, without knowing how to put that thought into proper terms.
 
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MechaPregnantAnneFrank

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I didn't write about this because I couldn't figure out if it was an April Fool's joke.



So many questions, for example:

Why is the video recorded like that?

How did he manage to get fatter?

What is his goal?

Why does he believe all the exact same things and simply remove the term "white nationalist"? What does that say about all the other neo-Nazis who are communists and "anti-imperialist"? Does it say they are all two words from becoming antifa, or whatever this is?

Why is the organization called "Light Upon Light"? Why are reformed Nazis called "shape shifters"? Is this some kind of illuminati thing?

What actually is this organization? Who is running it?

Does he think he is going to get in on that Piccolioni money, or does he just think this will allow him to get a job as a welder?

That hairline...?

Many more questions than these exist.

Antifa is saying it's part of a neo-Nazi plot.




This is obviously a total vindication of everything I've said about these freaks.


So I will be writing about it sometime.

But right now I'm still just trying to understand it.


Thoughts.
Hambach looks like Mike Enoch and Sargon messed up on the fusion dance.

 

RedPillStormer

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I think we need to keep in mind two things. There is stuff we can know, stuff we can guess and just conclusions regardless of his intent.

The thing is, it is hard to explain right now why he did it. There can be multiple theories. My personal is that he is an attention whore with a fetish for weird ideologies and desire for validation from the few freaks that will pay attention to him.

He has gone from regular pro-White, to Orthodox Communist to Satanist and now anti-hatred.

Guessing what his next move is is hard. We can't know for sure. We can however guess why he did it, because he was irrelevant so he picked an org that would give him some relevance + remove a tinge of stigma attached to being "racist" without having to fully cuck on all of his ideas.

What is more important is the conclusion : these people are not pro-White, Christian or anything like that, in any meaningful way.

Just as Striker for example. How did he make sense on a pro-White podcast ? He only talks about the evils of capitalism, he managed to do entryism by saying "Jews are behind capitalism", which was enough to give him minimal cred, but then he spent 99% of time talking about capitalism and not Jews.

Heimbach is the same. The main lesson here is this

These people are not really pro-White. They are communism / satanism / third position / whatever first. They only use minimal pro-White rhetoric to attach themselves to the pro-White scene, just enough, to then spend 100% of time promoting their pet issues (communism, satanism, etc.)

These people are clowns. And they use the shield of "but I am pro-White ! We are on the same team !" to deflect criticism, gain credibility so they can push their weird agenda. They care about their weird agenda and little of else.

Also, they are mental nutcases generally, who have enough self-control to seem minimally normal. They are doing this out to get a kick out of LARPing as a fuhrer and or bond with anti-social lunatics like themselves.

There are two types of people :
-smart people who want to win
-dumb people who want to do weird stuff like burning Swastikas in fields and drinking goat blood while LARPing as pro-White (they LARP as pro-White because they know it's fringe and it's a recruitment ground for their weird trailer park sex cults)
 

Flaps McKinley

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I am always intrigued by the way these people talk about "leaving" the White Nationalist "movement", as if, by "leaving" a group of people, the objective facts which created the impulse for white advocacy in the first place stop being true.

For example, regardless of whether or not Heimbach still flies the flag over his trailer compound, does this "renunciation" mean that he no longer believes that Whites are the target of the violent dispossession of their land and sovereignty, and are being slowly genocided as a race? Does his "leaving white nationalism" mean that the targetted murder of white farmers in South Africa is no longer happening? Someone can make a public statement about leaving a WN "movement", but notice he/she is never asked by their kike handlers "so, does this mean that what you said about the SPLC planning for a coming majority-minority is not true then?"

The sophistry was off the charts in this Twitter video, with lots of "they" and "them" when talking of nationalists (lots of "othering", you might say, as he addresses an audience who firmly see WN as other), and he talks of the concerns of racially aware whites in terms of "violence", because through his group's 90s-costumed-Nazi-on-Jerry-Springer activism, this is how he fought to frame the debate. He also succeeds in creating a narrative in which the concerns of whites are simply economic ones, a "clever" marxist pivot, in the hope that his audience will not be informed enough to understand that this goes far beyond economics or "frustration at not having political representation in the system" or even more hilariously, "not having access to higher education". Yeah, that's it, Matt, white men in Appalachia are frustrated at not having access to the gender studies degrees which would open doors for them at Buzzfeed.

Also, Heimbach has put on even more weight, and his endocrine system is so off he's emitting some serious faggot vibes. He speaks and gestures like he has the hormonal profile of a 40-year-old female.
 
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Harkon Ripsplitter

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Just as Striker for example. How did he make sense on a pro-White podcast ? He only talks about the evils of capitalism, he managed to do entryism by saying "Jews are behind capitalism", which was enough to give him minimal cred, but then he spent 99% of time talking about capitalism and not Jews.
He also took the side of the non-white side in every white vs. x conflict cause the white side is always controlled by jews, repeating the basic bitch leftwing third worldism of the decolonization era for whom there is no reason other than being either an emotional little faggot who so deeply cares about poor palestinian children, or for being a cynical commie who uses it as a pretence to further subvert the societies of whites. Also he tries to act as this cosmopolitan who is an expert on every romanticized culture like german national socialism, or traditional russia whatever that is. And that leads to realy akward moments when he talks with a russian that he then gets angry at for being, for a russian rightly so, sceptical about european nationalism, or trying to tell another russian that the forced labour programs of the german occupation were realy realy good for the russians that got deported. The guy is a complete brainlet wannabe intellectual and you figure that out when you hear him mispronouncing words that he only ever read about but never had to speak in reality to a person who would told him that hes full of shit.
 
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