Was the Chinese government 'right'? A theory

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A theory I have been mulling over for some time.

The scenario is as follows. I have not seen this put forward anywhere else, and I think this is highly plausible.

1. In light of the Hong Kong uprising, the US government and/or CIA wants to expand the unrest into mainland China.

2. Viral pandemics happen every few years in east Asia. The U.S. conspirators decide this could be a good pretext.

3. There is a genuine virus outbreak, Covid-19, and Chinese doctors are manipulated (maybe even recruited) to exaggerate the risks.

4. The central Chinese government realises what is happening but does not want to attract international attention, as they know they would be falling into an American trap, so they instruct local authorities to quietly silence the doctors.

5. The local authorities blunder and over-react and/or American agents blow it out of proportion anyway.

6. Meanwhile, remember this is a genuine virus and, while not exactly Armageddon tier, lots of people do start to fall ill and a few die, mainly elderly (as would be expected) but also a tiny few young people and a few of the doctors on the front-line, due to being infected with high viral loads.

7. In this situation, put yourself in the shoes of the central Chinese government. They are in a bind and have to decide what to do. They need to stop the Americans and Western media inciting an insurrection by portraying this as a plague, so they do two things -

(i). Clamp down on the regional epidemic in an ultra-harsh, way over the top, out-of-all proportion manner with the objective of crushing it in two or three weeks flat. They go about this like psychopaths, urgently and ruthlessly, knowing otherwise they could have a Hong Kong situation on their hands.

(ii). They decide to turn the tables on the 'West' and allow the virus to spread and/or deliberately spread it and/or even turn it into a bioweapon. To mask Chinese agency in the viral spread, they target Iran and Italy first, as this looks less suspicious geopolitically. Iran is a non-aligned state and Italy, while in NATO, is not in the central core. There are lots of Chinese in northern Italy - so it's a plausible locus - and it's handy for spreading into Spain, and also into nearby Switzerland, and from there northern Europe. Lots of middle-class British people have holioday villas in Italy and winter there and ski, etc., then fly back on the cheap airlines.

8. The next stage in this scenario is the West's reaction when realising the tables are turned. To my mind, there are three explanations for the West's overreaction, and these could all be true at once:

(i). The best explanation, in my view, is that the Chinese overreaction has been misinterpreted. This is based on my theoretical scenario being close to the truth. In short, the Chinese overreacted because they knew that the Americans were manipulating pubic reactions in China to an ordinary regional epidemic. This in turn has been misinterpreted by all the useful idiots - including many experts in infection control and epidemiology - as a classic 'flight' response, when in fact it was a managed political response. The misunderstanding has perhaps been aggravated by a lack of close collaboration and contact between Chinese academic and scientific/technical people and their counterparts in the West.

(ii). A second possibility is that one or two Western governments, in addition to the United States, were party to the conspiracy or were even part of it. Britain is a prime candidate. With this knowledge, they incited an overreaction in their own countries in the belief (probably mistaken) that the Chinese have augmented the virus in a way that makes it genuinely dangerous. Personally, I think it is entirely plausible that the Chinese have fashioned a genuine virus this way, but I doubt they could have made it dangerous and I doubt they would be stupid enough to do so even if they could.

(iii). Notwithstanding the above two, Western governments, whether in on the anti-Chinese plot or not, realise it's a fuck-up and they've been 'had', so they (or rather, their billionaire backers and stooges) think to themselves how they might turn this disaster into an opportunity. An hysterical reaction to a pandemic is an ideal opportunity for a controlled collapse of the global economy, putting the elites in a good position to direct the 'recovery' and buy up assets and leverages at undervalue. This sort of thing is even theoreticised in academic economics as 'shock therapy'.
 

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A theory I have been mulling over for some time.

The scenario is as follows. I have not seen this put forward anywhere else, and I think this is highly plausible.

1. In light of the Hong Kong uprising, the US government and/or CIA wants to expand the unrest into mainland China.

2. Viral pandemics happen every few years in east Asia. The U.S. conspirators decide this could be a good pretext.

3. There is a genuine virus outbreak, Covid-19, and Chinese doctors are manipulated (maybe even recruited) to exaggerate the risks.

4. The central Chinese government realises what is happening but does not want to attract international attention, as they know they would be falling into an American trap, so they instruct local authorities to quietly silence the doctors.

5. The local authorities blunder and over-react and/or American agents blow it out of proportion anyway.

6. Meanwhile, remember this is a genuine virus and, while not exactly Armageddon tier, lots of people do start to fall ill and a few die, mainly elderly (as would be expected) but also a tiny few young people and a few of the doctors on the front-line, due to being infected with high viral loads.

7. In this situation, put yourself in the shoes of the central Chinese government. They are in a bind and have to decide what to do. They need to stop the Americans and Western media inciting an insurrection by portraying this as a plague, so they do two things -

(i). Clamp down on the regional epidemic in an ultra-harsh, way over the top, out-of-all proportion manner with the objective of crushing it in two or three weeks flat. They go about this like psychopaths, urgently and ruthlessly, knowing otherwise they could have a Hong Kong situation on their hands.

(ii). They decide to turn the tables on the 'West' and allow the virus to spread and/or deliberately spread it and/or even turn it into a bioweapon. To mask Chinese agency in the viral spread, they target Iran and Italy first, as this looks less suspicious geopolitically. Iran is a non-aligned state and Italy, while in NATO, is not in the central core. There are lots of Chinese in northern Italy - so it's a plausible locus - and it's handy for spreading into Spain, and also into nearby Switzerland, and from there northern Europe. Lots of middle-class British people have holioday villas in Italy and winter there and ski, etc., then fly back on the cheap airlines.

8. The next stage in this scenario is the West's reaction when realising the tables are turned. To my mind, there are three explanations for the West's overreaction, and these could all be true at once:

(i). The best explanation, in my view, is that the Chinese overreaction has been misinterpreted. This is based on my theoretical scenario being close to the truth. In short, the Chinese overreacted because they knew that the Americans were manipulating pubic reactions in China to an ordinary regional epidemic. This in turn has been misinterpreted by all the useful idiots - including many experts in infection control and epidemiology - as a classic 'flight' response, when in fact it was a managed political response. The misunderstanding has perhaps been aggravated by a lack of close collaboration and contact between Chinese academic and scientific/technical people and their counterparts in the West.

(ii). A second possibility is that one or two Western governments, in addition to the United States, were party to the conspiracy or were even part of it. Britain is a prime candidate. With this knowledge, they incited an overreaction in their own countries in the belief (probably mistaken) that the Chinese have augmented the virus in a way that makes it genuinely dangerous. Personally, I think it is entirely plausible that the Chinese have fashioned a genuine virus this way, but I doubt they could have made it dangerous and I doubt they would be stupid enough to do so even if they could.

(iii). Notwithstanding the above two, Western governments, whether in on the anti-Chinese plot or not, realise it's a fuck-up and they've been 'had', so they (or rather, their billionaire backers and stooges) think to themselves how they might turn this disaster into an opportunity. An hysterical reaction to a pandemic is an ideal opportunity for a controlled collapse of the global economy, putting the elites in a good position to direct the 'recovery' and buy up assets and leverages at undervalue. This sort of thing is even theoreticised in academic economics as 'shock therapy'.
The last paragraph is what we are seeing.
 

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A theory I have been mulling over for some time.

The scenario is as follows. I have not seen this put forward anywhere else, and I think this is highly plausible.

1. In light of the Hong Kong uprising, the US government and/or CIA wants to expand the unrest into mainland China.

2. Viral pandemics happen every few years in east Asia. The U.S. conspirators decide this could be a good pretext.

3. There is a genuine virus outbreak, Covid-19, and Chinese doctors are manipulated (maybe even recruited) to exaggerate the risks.

4. The central Chinese government realises what is happening but does not want to attract international attention, as they know they would be falling into an American trap, so they instruct local authorities to quietly silence the doctors.

5. The local authorities blunder and over-react and/or American agents blow it out of proportion anyway.

6. Meanwhile, remember this is a genuine virus and, while not exactly Armageddon tier, lots of people do start to fall ill and a few die, mainly elderly (as would be expected) but also a tiny few young people and a few of the doctors on the front-line, due to being infected with high viral loads.

7. In this situation, put yourself in the shoes of the central Chinese government. They are in a bind and have to decide what to do. They need to stop the Americans and Western media inciting an insurrection by portraying this as a plague, so they do two things -

(i). Clamp down on the regional epidemic in an ultra-harsh, way over the top, out-of-all proportion manner with the objective of crushing it in two or three weeks flat. They go about this like psychopaths, urgently and ruthlessly, knowing otherwise they could have a Hong Kong situation on their hands.

(ii). They decide to turn the tables on the 'West' and allow the virus to spread and/or deliberately spread it and/or even turn it into a bioweapon. To mask Chinese agency in the viral spread, they target Iran and Italy first, as this looks less suspicious geopolitically. Iran is a non-aligned state and Italy, while in NATO, is not in the central core. There are lots of Chinese in northern Italy - so it's a plausible locus - and it's handy for spreading into Spain, and also into nearby Switzerland, and from there northern Europe. Lots of middle-class British people have holioday villas in Italy and winter there and ski, etc., then fly back on the cheap airlines.

8. The next stage in this scenario is the West's reaction when realising the tables are turned. To my mind, there are three explanations for the West's overreaction, and these could all be true at once:

(i). The best explanation, in my view, is that the Chinese overreaction has been misinterpreted. This is based on my theoretical scenario being close to the truth. In short, the Chinese overreacted because they knew that the Americans were manipulating pubic reactions in China to an ordinary regional epidemic. This in turn has been misinterpreted by all the useful idiots - including many experts in infection control and epidemiology - as a classic 'flight' response, when in fact it was a managed political response. The misunderstanding has perhaps been aggravated by a lack of close collaboration and contact between Chinese academic and scientific/technical people and their counterparts in the West.

(ii). A second possibility is that one or two Western governments, in addition to the United States, were party to the conspiracy or were even part of it. Britain is a prime candidate. With this knowledge, they incited an overreaction in their own countries in the belief (probably mistaken) that the Chinese have augmented the virus in a way that makes it genuinely dangerous. Personally, I think it is entirely plausible that the Chinese have fashioned a genuine virus this way, but I doubt they could have made it dangerous and I doubt they would be stupid enough to do so even if they could.

(iii). Notwithstanding the above two, Western governments, whether in on the anti-Chinese plot or not, realise it's a fuck-up and they've been 'had', so they (or rather, their billionaire backers and stooges) think to themselves how they might turn this disaster into an opportunity. An hysterical reaction to a pandemic is an ideal opportunity for a controlled collapse of the global economy, putting the elites in a good position to direct the 'recovery' and buy up assets and leverages at undervalue. This sort of thing is even theoreticised in academic economics as 'shock therapy'.
Mulling it over. A lot of what you say has merit. On Unz there is a theory that US military released a bio weapon in November 2019, still works with a lot of what you say. πŸ€”



I’ll throw my 2 cents in here. I have zero proof other than my gut feeling that this is a bioweapon. I do have 40 year of biodefense research experience behind me and worked at Fort Detrich on bacterial vaccines where I developed my own aerosol infection routes and developed multi-species models of pathogenesis to establish correlates of immunity.

…I notice some interesting things with COVID-19, that perked my ears up a bit. Yes, it could be a natural infection jumping species from bats to humans with a probable intermediate host, under conditions of human encroachment into world habitats. It is actually most likely to have been that, except for the strain differences being observed. That leads one to believe if it is in fact true, and I have no reason to doubt the Chinese on this, that it originated outside of China and it seems likely to have originated in the US. If, in fact, the US has 5 strains currently and China only one then it must have been percolating in the US for some time before it arose in China. Likely, deaths in the US were attributed to other diseases such as influenza and only retrospective sampling will determine this. It would be interesting to do a combination GPS-Molecular biology tracking of strains over time and distance. Also, a definite genetic analysis of strains over time would also be beneficial and can be done easily on every isolated strain. This would have value in attributing the course of the disease over time as part of a natural history study of the virus. We would need access to all samples of every lung disease related death for the past 12 months to be certain to track all potential deaths. NBACC is the key to figuring out what nefarious stuff was being funded.

It is possible that this virus has mutated over time to become more virulent. In particular engineered strains are generally unstable over multiple passages through multiple hosts. In my experience when testing strains for pathogenesis and lethality it is wise to first passage a frozen isolate several times through a susceptible animal host to regain full strength. If you test a lab isolate (usually frozen or lyophilized) generally it is wimpy unless you passage it at least 3 passages through an animal model. The worst strains are always those recovered from humans who died from the disease and not field collected strains. If this was perceived to be a useful agent from the likes of Bolton or Pompeo, who are terrible and evil people, then it is conceivable this was thought to teach the Chinese a lesson in economics. You have to be a complete idiot to release a virus for which you have no effective countermeasures but this administration seems to be filled with complete idiots. So, expecting normal behavior from these people is futile.

It could have been released during the 7th CISM military games held in Wuhan October 18-27, 2019 and that fits perfectly into the time scale for the actual infections. Now interestingly enough, I was a participant in several CISM competitions in Europe for skiing (I was on active duty for 26 years) so I am very well versed in who these athletes are. In general the best are Olympic competitors who are ostensibly part of the National Guard of their states who pay for their training by extended military active duty periods where their sole job is sports training. I used to lose every year to one of these guys and generally I placed a distant second place in cross country skiing. I also participated in the biathlon competitions and our soldiers were the very top level because they were in fact Olympic athletes. Rumor is that the US participants at CISM were atrocious which is very atypical so one wonders who these β€œathletes” were. I am reminded of the US military mission in Brazil to help flood victims which coincidentally was the exact same time that all the power transmission stations in Venezuela were destroyed. So, again a hackle or 2 rise when I heard about that. However, it is the perfect opportunity to release a virus on a target population.
 
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(iii). Notwithstanding the above two, Western governments, whether in on the anti-Chinese plot or not, realise it's a fuck-up and they've been 'had', so they (or rather, their billionaire backers and stooges) think to themselves how they might turn this disaster into an opportunity. An hysterical reaction to a pandemic is an ideal opportunity for a controlled collapse of the global economy, putting the elites in a good position to direct the 'recovery' and buy up assets and leverages at undervalue. This sort of thing is even theoreticised in academic economics as 'shock therapy'.
Definitely this as was said above. That said, I'm sure it's some combination of the rest, we can't say for certain...but it's definitely curious how fast the West had shit prepared, and whether they planned it or not they clearly had plans for something 'like' this happening. On the economic front the huge drop in precious metal prices combined with the market plunge and panic selling definitely was planned. They've acquired a shit-ton of real currency (read precious metals, supplies, etc) and now they want to buy up land after that market crashes.

Whether the origin was with the US, China, or some third party, this whole fiasco is being used by the Kikes to the extreme. Whether or not the normies will demand a return to how things were before will decide whether or not they push forward with their 'brave new world' type plans.
 

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A theory I have been mulling over for some time.

The scenario is as follows. I have not seen this put forward anywhere else, and I think this is highly plausible.

1. In light of the Hong Kong uprising, the US government and/or CIA wants to expand the unrest into mainland China.

2. Viral pandemics happen every few years in east Asia. The U.S. conspirators decide this could be a good pretext.

3. There is a genuine virus outbreak, Covid-19, and Chinese doctors are manipulated (maybe even recruited) to exaggerate the risks.

4. The central Chinese government realises what is happening but does not want to attract international attention, as they know they would be falling into an American trap, so they instruct local authorities to quietly silence the doctors.

5. The local authorities blunder and over-react and/or American agents blow it out of proportion anyway.

6. Meanwhile, remember this is a genuine virus and, while not exactly Armageddon tier, lots of people do start to fall ill and a few die, mainly elderly (as would be expected) but also a tiny few young people and a few of the doctors on the front-line, due to being infected with high viral loads.

7. In this situation, put yourself in the shoes of the central Chinese government. They are in a bind and have to decide what to do. They need to stop the Americans and Western media inciting an insurrection by portraying this as a plague, so they do two things -

(i). Clamp down on the regional epidemic in an ultra-harsh, way over the top, out-of-all proportion manner with the objective of crushing it in two or three weeks flat. They go about this like psychopaths, urgently and ruthlessly, knowing otherwise they could have a Hong Kong situation on their hands.

(ii). They decide to turn the tables on the 'West' and allow the virus to spread and/or deliberately spread it and/or even turn it into a bioweapon. To mask Chinese agency in the viral spread, they target Iran and Italy first, as this looks less suspicious geopolitically. Iran is a non-aligned state and Italy, while in NATO, is not in the central core. There are lots of Chinese in northern Italy - so it's a plausible locus - and it's handy for spreading into Spain, and also into nearby Switzerland, and from there northern Europe. Lots of middle-class British people have holioday villas in Italy and winter there and ski, etc., then fly back on the cheap airlines.

8. The next stage in this scenario is the West's reaction when realising the tables are turned. To my mind, there are three explanations for the West's overreaction, and these could all be true at once:

(i). The best explanation, in my view, is that the Chinese overreaction has been misinterpreted. This is based on my theoretical scenario being close to the truth. In short, the Chinese overreacted because they knew that the Americans were manipulating pubic reactions in China to an ordinary regional epidemic. This in turn has been misinterpreted by all the useful idiots - including many experts in infection control and epidemiology - as a classic 'flight' response, when in fact it was a managed political response. The misunderstanding has perhaps been aggravated by a lack of close collaboration and contact between Chinese academic and scientific/technical people and their counterparts in the West.

(ii). A second possibility is that one or two Western governments, in addition to the United States, were party to the conspiracy or were even part of it. Britain is a prime candidate. With this knowledge, they incited an overreaction in their own countries in the belief (probably mistaken) that the Chinese have augmented the virus in a way that makes it genuinely dangerous. Personally, I think it is entirely plausible that the Chinese have fashioned a genuine virus this way, but I doubt they could have made it dangerous and I doubt they would be stupid enough to do so even if they could.

(iii). Notwithstanding the above two, Western governments, whether in on the anti-Chinese plot or not, realise it's a fuck-up and they've been 'had', so they (or rather, their billionaire backers and stooges) think to themselves how they might turn this disaster into an opportunity. An hysterical reaction to a pandemic is an ideal opportunity for a controlled collapse of the global economy, putting the elites in a good position to direct the 'recovery' and buy up assets and leverages at undervalue. This sort of thing is even theoreticised in academic economics as 'shock therapy'.
THIS IS AN OPINION, i personally think it was planned, i dont think china had a real outbreak. I remember when it first came out I was saying how all the pictures and videos looked fake as fuck. China has the ability to lockdown people and make it look like a plague has hit that would not be hard for the Chinese to do given the control they have over their society. I believe China is part of ZOG (lot of people disagree with this statement). I think this pandemic was fabricated to collapse the west, the script was already in place. The West was warned about this months in advance but did nothing. So we have panic being filmed in China, doomsday plague and nothing being done in the West to prevent it. Instead we are treated with many gaffs and stories of how we let these Chinese infected come here and did nothing about it. A plausible case is made that incompetence allowed it here and its doing the same thing it did in Wuhan to the entire west. They have hyped the plague status of this virus for months so people are already half cocked. The media puts it in overdrive, on tv its the Spanish flu, in reality its the tail end of the flu season. Now we have people clamoring for the New World Order, mark of the Beast and everything else.

From the panic and chaos is arising the control mechanism of the new world order which have been in place and tested in China for 2 decades. i think this is cause they will use to destroy the West and bring about their new world order. A real plague is too scary because it could easily get out of control, a concocted one much easier. It is too coincidental to me, that all of their solutions are mimicking the well known agenda 21 and 2030 plans. How life can never be the same because of a mild flu. Its too fucked up to explain, its simply the end result of allowing women to have a political voice. They can easily be herded into any situation through fear, women care nothing about abstract concepts like freedom, liberty and law...they just want a father figure to lay the pipe. That is what we have women crying for right now, new world order pipe.
 

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This sounds as plausible as any, more so in fact. I can just see the 'elites' in the west slobbering with anticipation at the prospect of digital currency, chips and what nots.
 
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