'The Polar Express' Movie

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An old movie theater (believe it or not, it was actually in a mall, the only mall movie theater still left in my area) used to show this for one week, every Christmas season, for free. My family had a tradition of taking a weekday off of work, going to see the mall Santa Claus (this mall has the best Santas!), and then going to see 'The Polar Express'. I had loved the book as a boy, the movie as a young man, and the tradition as a father.

I'm sure most of you have seen the movie or read the book. If you haven't, consider adding them to any portfolio of Christmas movies to watch this year. They're both filled with the mystery, joy, and magic that children feel at Christmas-time. There's virtually none of the irony and humor that most other Christmas stories use to hedge their bets and appeal to the "adult audience" ("This Santa thing is fun and magical, but isn't it all just so retarded, too?" -see, 'Elf' and virtually all Christmas movies made after 2000.) 'The Polar Express' uses Santa Claus as a metaphor for faith, and the point of the movie is that, as one ages, we're all presented with the choice: Believe in God, or lose innocence eternally. The movie says it's better to be brave and hop on a moving train, with a destination you're unaware of, than to languish safely but cynically in your bedroom, sneering at the idea of faith. The message is brought home with an ending so powerful it will bring tears to the eyes of the most jaded of gentiles.



The book was written by Grand Rapids, Michigan author Chris Van Allsburg (Dutch "burg", not Jewish) and the movie expands the 1950s, all-American middle class sensibility that he illustrated with in his short book across an entire movie. If any of you have Boomer family members who haven't seen it, they'll all take to it very strongly, I suspect (especially if they're Midwesterners) because the aesthetic seems as though it's pulled from the collective psyche of every little white boy in 1960 in Detroit, or Cleveland, or Milwaukee.

Because of the evil Coronavirus hoax, the mall Santas are now behind glass and the movie theater is closed, so our tradition is dead, or at least on pause for 2020. I know that many families had similar traditions with 'The Polar Express', particularly in the Evangelical community where this movie was always popular. So, maybe any readers of this thread will want to start their own tradition, by watching this movie at home or maybe even with all the neighborhood kids in a makeshift movie theater.
 

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Christmas has always been a very heartwarming time for me, as I'm sure most of the fellow Christians here (maybe the non-Christians too, but probably not the lurking ADL anti-Christ jews).

You're right, there are too many "Christmas" movies which are just goofy commercial pointless fluff. But I really enjoyed the Polar Express when it came out, even though I was an adult. Partially because of the neat (for the time) CG style. And it was just a decent movie, with the theme of faith and kindness, as you said. I guess that's about as close a modern movie can get to a Christian message without people whining about it and pushing it into the corner as a "religious movie".

My favorite Christmas film is It's A Wonderful Life. I watched it as a boy, and every Christmas since, but it's given me a new meaning in recent years.
 

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My favorite Christmas film is It's A Wonderful Life. I watched it as a boy, and every Christmas since, but it's given me a new meaning in recent years.
I hate that movie. It has a strongly demoralizing message. Encourages acceptance of failure. The bad guys win and do not get punished. The whole thing is depressing and meant to be depressing.

I guess it would be more accurate to say I disagree with the movie. Certainly the production values are high, and it holds your attention.
 

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I hate that movie. It has a strongly demoralizing message. Encourages acceptance of failure. The bad guys win and do not get punished. The whole thing is depressing and meant to be depressing.

I guess it would be more accurate to say I disagree with the movie. Certainly the production values are high, and it holds your attention.
Huh, that's unusual to hear such a strong reaction to what I always thought of as such a wholesome film. Not saying you're wrong about (it's all preference), but I like it so much that I should explain what it means to me.

1. The bad guys win in a material sense, which is actually how this unjust and rotten world often works. But the main character wins in a moral sense. The ending "transcends" the typical Hollywood idea of a happy ending. It reminds me, I had a buddy who complained that in foreign movies, the characters all die, ha ha. I thought it was funny, because that's true to life -- how can we live and not realize that death is coming for all of us? I guess Disney and cookie-cutter Hollywood superhero movies have trained people to expect candyland endings for everything.

2. It's depressing on purpose, about the main character never getting what he thinks he wants in life. He gets married and ends up in the house which he would have never wanted to own, he wants to travel but never gets a chance, he wants to be a civil engineer but also gets stuck with a barely solvent family business and money troubles. We're supposed to empathize and sympathize with his situation. The great thing is that, in the end, he sees that his life was actually very valuable, and a blessing to so many people around him who would otherwise be miserable. It really speaks to the real meaning of all our lives -- to be servants to the people around us.

3. Failure will happen sometimes in life. Not everything is in our control. Yeah we should work hard toward success, but some unfortunate things are unavoidable, and we need to trust God instead of fighting futile struggles all the time. Also, things which seem like a problem in the short run often lead to God's glory in the long-term sense.
 

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You know its wholesome because the Jews don't like it. The kike Ayn Rand even got the FBI to label it as communist propaganda due to its depiction of bankers.
Probably because the communists had infiltrated Hollywood, and Rand had worked in Hollywood for a while, so she had encountered their kind before - especially back in the country she had left behind: the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. And though I always liked "It's A Wonderful Life" it was made by a man who, although not a communist, was a known advocate of socialist ideas. Ironically, the star of the movie (James Stewart) was a well-known Hollywood conservative during his active years.
 

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Probably because the communists had infiltrated Hollywood, and Rand had worked in Hollywood for a while, so she had encountered their kind before - especially back in the country she had left behind: the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. And though I always liked "It's A Wonderful Life" it was made by a man who, although not a communist, was a known advocate of socialist ideas. Ironically, the star of the movie (James Stewart) was a well-known Hollywood conservative during his active years.
But Rand was a kike who preached to the goyim the benefits of being selfish so her good intentions can't be trusted. And when they mention the director advocating socialist ideas they neglect to mention they were from Mussolini and Franco not Marx. I don't think the movie was a big right wing dog whistle. But its telling that Jews still periodically attack the movie.
 

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But Rand was a kike who preached to the goyim the benefits of being selfish so her good intentions can't be trusted. And when they mention the director advocating socialist ideas they neglect to mention they were from Mussolini and Franco not Marx. I don't think the movie was a big right wing dog whistle. But its telling that Jews still periodically attack the movie.
Yeah, it's hard to say who's jewing whom there. From my memory, the film was written by an Italian far removed from jews. I understand the film is seen through the lens of the "Red Scare" around that time, so accusations of communism flew in every direction.

But It's A Wonderful Life deservedly shows bankers, stereotypical usurers in a bad light. If the film came out today, HuffPo would likely shoot out articles about how antisemitic it is, ha ha.

It really is a wholesome movie about helping people at the expense of your own interests, and how a solid character / reputation for a man is his greatest wealth.
 

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You know its wholesome because the Jews don't like it. The kike Ayn Rand even got the FBI to label it as communist propaganda due to its depiction of bankers.
Not surprising. The hero of the movie is a banker who rejects usury.

No, but you...you...you're thinking of this place all wrong. As if I had the money back in a safe. The, the money's not here. Well, your money's in Joe's house...that's right next to yours. And in the Kennedy House, and Mrs. Macklin's house, and, and a hundred others. Why, you're lending them the money to build, and then, they're going to pay it back to you as best they can.
 

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I have not seen this movie, it looked creepy and bizarre to me.
Uncanny valley of the conductor's face--super creepy looking.

But the book is a classic and I have been wanting to pick up a copy for my personal library.

Can an adult just enjoy this movie?

My tastes are kind of high brow, but many would see them as low brow. I like
Japanese cinema. Last week I re-watched the black and white ghost story Kuro Neko, or black cat.

so I don't know if I could sit through it as an adult. A lot of stuff is boring to me.


Is there a Christmas movie or video viewing thread?

I don't watch it every year, but last year I showed my parents the classic Twilight Zone Christmas episode
"Night of the Meek" starring Art Carney. They really enjoyed it.

This year I will probably watch the re-make from the 1980s Twilight Zone tv show.
But maybe the original, too. I have a house guest coming, so I was planning on showing them Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence. πŸ˜‚
 

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Can an adult just enjoy this movie?

My tastes are kind of high brow, but many would see them as low brow. I like
Japanese cinema. Last week I re-watched the black and white ghost story Kuro Neko, or black cat.

so I don't know if I could sit through it as an adult. A lot of stuff is boring to me.
You could enjoy it but I'll warn you its not for everyone. Realistically you have to have a very high IQ to appreciate movies like the polar express. There is a deeper tone that is extremely subtle, and you have to have a decent grasp of cinematography and art or most of the themes will go over the typical viewers head. There is almost a somber outlook that is deeply woven into Chris's character. His personal philosophy draws deeply from Evola for example. True fans understand this and realize that its not just a good story but it says something deep about life.

starring Art Carney
If you are interested I know another holiday movie starring Art Carney you might enjoy.
 

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An old movie theater (believe it or not, it was actually in a mall, the only mall movie theater still left in my area) used to show this for one week, every Christmas season, for free. My family had a tradition of taking a weekday off of work, going to see the mall Santa Claus (this mall has the best Santas!), and then going to see 'The Polar Express'. I had loved the book as a boy, the movie as a young man, and the tradition as a father.

I'm sure most of you have seen the movie or read the book. If you haven't, consider adding them to any portfolio of Christmas movies to watch this year. They're both filled with the mystery, joy, and magic that children feel at Christmas-time. There's virtually none of the irony and humor that most other Christmas stories use to hedge their bets and appeal to the "adult audience" ("This Santa thing is fun and magical, but isn't it all just so retarded, too?" -see, 'Elf' and virtually all Christmas movies made after 2000.) 'The Polar Express' uses Santa Claus as a metaphor for faith, and the point of the movie is that, as one ages, we're all presented with the choice: Believe in God, or lose innocence eternally. The movie says it's better to be brave and hop on a moving train, with a destination you're unaware of, than to languish safely but cynically in your bedroom, sneering at the idea of faith. The message is brought home with an ending so powerful it will bring tears to the eyes of the most jaded of gentiles.



The book was written by Grand Rapids, Michigan author Chris Van Allsburg (Dutch "burg", not Jewish) and the movie expands the 1950s, all-American middle class sensibility that he illustrated with in his short book across an entire movie. If any of you have Boomer family members who haven't seen it, they'll all take to it very strongly, I suspect (especially if they're Midwesterners) because the aesthetic seems as though it's pulled from the collective psyche of every little white boy in 1960 in Detroit, or Cleveland, or Milwaukee.

Because of the evil Coronavirus hoax, the mall Santas are now behind glass and the movie theater is closed, so our tradition is dead, or at least on pause for 2020. I know that many families had similar traditions with 'The Polar Express', particularly in the Evangelical community where this movie was always popular. So, maybe any readers of this thread will want to start their own tradition, by watching this movie at home or maybe even with all the neighborhood kids in a makeshift movie theater.
I'm almost ashamed to admit that I've never seen this movie.

This was beautifully written.
 

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Christmas is my favorite time of the year. The only movie I get to see is A Christmas Story. Nothing is better than hearing on the phone that little inbred jew Schwartz getting his ass beat by his jewess whore of a mom when Ralphie, after having a bar of soap in his mouth, squeals saying he heard the Queen Mother of All Words, the F - - - Word, from him.

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Huh, that's unusual to hear such a strong reaction to what I always thought of as such a wholesome film. Not saying you're wrong about (it's all preference), but I like it so much that I should explain what it means to me.

1. The bad guys win in a material sense, which is actually how this unjust and rotten world often works. But the main character wins in a moral sense. The ending "transcends" the typical Hollywood idea of a happy ending. It reminds me, I had a buddy who complained that in foreign movies, the characters all die, ha ha. I thought it was funny, because that's true to life -- how can we live and not realize that death is coming for all of us? I guess Disney and cookie-cutter Hollywood superhero movies have trained people to expect candyland endings for everything.

2. It's depressing on purpose, about the main character never getting what he thinks he wants in life. He gets married and ends up in the house which he would have never wanted to own, he wants to travel but never gets a chance, he wants to be a civil engineer but also gets stuck with a barely solvent family business and money troubles. We're supposed to empathize and sympathize with his situation. The great thing is that, in the end, he sees that his life was actually very valuable, and a blessing to so many people around him who would otherwise be miserable. It really speaks to the real meaning of all our lives -- to be servants to the people around us.

3. Failure will happen sometimes in life. Not everything is in our control. Yeah we should work hard toward success, but some unfortunate things are unavoidable, and we need to trust God instead of fighting futile struggles all the time. Also, things which seem like a problem in the short run often lead to God's glory in the long-term sense.
Great explanation. And yes, right back at you: I'm not saying you're wrong by any means.

The key point, I think: "Yeah we should work hard toward success, but some unfortunate things are unavoidable, and we need to trust God instead of fighting futile struggles all the time."

I'm just too Promethean (in the sense of glorifying the Hero and the Will), I guess, to accept and go along with that. I love the heroic struggle. Against all odds. Never give up, never surrender.


It just is so frustrating to watch him give up and be so easily thwarted. Jimmy Stewart could've so easily taken over the family business, gotten it going smooth, managed a transition to a different manager (find some cousin somewhere or something), and then become a civil engineer. Just plan! Take some charge of your life!

Doing some world travel would have been even more trivial a goal to pull off.

It's the difference between HIGH AGENCY and LOW AGENCY that Andrew (and Roy and others) sometimes has talked about on the Daily Stormer. Low agency people exist, OK, and their lives have value and meaning, OK, I'm sure. But they are still fundamentally depressing to me!

Let's be HIGH AGENCY people! Let's Git Er Done!

I get what you're saying that we don't need to be stupidly stuck on tilting at some windmill our whole lives in a way that obviously is never going to work. But, man, even then!! How much more meaning is there in a life spent tilting at the windmills than just... passively going with the flow and accepting whatever life happens to coincidence you with!


People talk about this movie being "inspirational." Well OK: to what? "Inspire" is not a stand-alone verb. You get inspired to do something. What does Wonderful Life inspire you to do?
 

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Great explanation. And yes, right back at you: I'm not saying you're wrong by any means.

The key point, I think: "Yeah we should work hard toward success, but some unfortunate things are unavoidable, and we need to trust God instead of fighting futile struggles all the time."

I'm just too Promethean (in the sense of glorifying the Hero and the Will), I guess, to accept and go along with that. I love the heroic struggle. Against all odds. Never give up, never surrender.


It just is so frustrating to watch him give up and be so easily thwarted. Jimmy Stewart could've so easily taken over the family business, gotten it going smooth, managed a transition to a different manager (find some cousin somewhere or something), and then become a civil engineer. Just plan! Take some charge of your life!

Doing some world travel would have been even more trivial a goal to pull off.

It's the difference between HIGH AGENCY and LOW AGENCY that Andrew (and Roy and others) sometimes has talked about on the Daily Stormer. Low agency people exist, OK, and their lives have value and meaning, OK, I'm sure. But they are still fundamentally depressing to me!

Let's be HIGH AGENCY people! Let's Git Er Done!
Your philosophy is definitely respectable, and I commend it. In my experience, you're probably in the 5% of the population who are so motivated. I've managed people at a job, and I can say that a dominant majority of people are in the category of "roll with the punches" or "go with the flow", since they realize that quixotic fighting, as you allude to, will likely cost them more in life.

Yeah, I guess the movie doesn't explicitly say George Bailey's motivations for those life decisions. I interpret it as his natural "decency" to give his little brother a chance at an education, instead of taking it for himself. Then taking on the building and loan was his dedication to the people of the town with whom he grew up -- another selfless act. The foil to his character is the ruthless, greedy, Potter.

Plus, as I've seen in my life a few times, there is an old saying: Man plans, God laughs. Life has a way of wrecking our most long-term plans, and I suspect that it would drive most people crazy to try to always have full control of their future instead of committing it to God's direction at times. You're right about having personal agency, and I'm in favor of tenacity as a character trait. But I guess it's hard to know (at least for me) where the balancing point is between depending on yourself and leaving things to Christ.

I get what you're saying that we don't need to be stupidly stuck on tilting at some windmill our whole lives in a way that obviously is never going to work. But, man, even then!! How much more meaning is there in a life spent tilting at the windmills than just... passively going with the flow and accepting whatever life happens to coincidence you with!


People talk about this movie being "inspirational." Well OK: to what? "Inspire" is not a stand-alone verb. You get inspired to do something. What does Wonderful Life inspire you to do?
Oh man, you're right. People in our day use words like "inspiration" as a boilerplate / filler that doesn't mean much.

Now, if your question isn't just rhetoric, but specifically for me, here are the ideas which I think the film encourages:

1. Most people in life measure "wealth" in material money / riches. But to get money, a man must often betray and sell his friends, making him hated and lonely (like Potter, or Ebenezer Scrooge in a similar Christmas message). Real wealth is how many friends and family a man has, and the reputation / good deeds which follow him.

2. Things which we myopically see as pointless, dreary, monotonous, etc. are often actually the things which collectively make up our happiness in life. It's just a matter of perspective. This becomes all obvious to George Bailey after his "never been born" experience. His children and wife who drive him up the wall, his doting mother, even the garbage house he lives in -- he gains perspective, and realizes that these parts of his life which he's grown to think are an anchor holding him down are actually all treasures. We all stand to re-evaluate our friendships and our life situations, and realize that our lives are likely a lot better than we perceive!

3. There's the question "what is the meaning of life?". Generally, people will answer with something about how it's about living life to the fullest, live for today, get shitfaced and forget about it, worry about tomorrow tomorrow, maximize your excitement / fun / pleasure like an animal. Personally, I even know many Christians who have trouble answering, and say something about living a decent life and making sure you don't lose your personal salvation before you die. After coming back to It's A Wonderful Life (which doesn't claim to be a theological or "Christian" film, I realize) over the years, I've arrived at the understanding that we unavoidably affect the lives of our family, friends, coworkers, and even the world. It sounds grandiose, true, but we all leave a mark on those we touch in life. My personal hope is that the effect from my life will be a solid net-positive, and I frankly believe that God intends that for His children. It's nice to live as a hermit and pray and eventually squeeze our individual way into heaven, but what does that kind of life benefit God's creation and His intent for the world? So in a general way, the film "inspires" me with motivation to be more selfless, and in every interaction to take the more kind path when dealing with people. George Bailey's experience with Clarence is a very powerful exposition which turns the entire depressing circumstance on its head, and it's one of the most personal, visceral and touching parts in all of cinema, in my take.

I should wish Merry Christmas and Christ's blessings to you personally and everyone around you, also, in case we don't run into each other before the Holiday.
 

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Christmas is my favorite time of the year. The only movie I get to see is A Christmas Story. Nothing is better than hearing on the phone that little inbred jew Schwartz getting his ass beat by his jewess whore of a mom when Ralphie, after having a bar of soap in his mouth, squeals saying he heard the Queen Mother of All Words, the F - - - Word, from him.

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I'm surprised Schwartz and his family weren't also at the Chinese restaurant.
 

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Now, if your question isn't just rhetoric, but specifically for me, here are the ideas which I think the film encourages:

1. Most people in life measure "wealth" in material money / riches. But to get money, a man must often betray and sell his friends, making him hated and lonely (like Potter, or Ebenezer Scrooge in a similar Christmas message). Real wealth is how many friends and family a man has, and the reputation / good deeds which follow him.

2. Things which we myopically see as pointless, dreary, monotonous, etc. are often actually the things which collectively make up our happiness in life. It's just a matter of perspective. This becomes all obvious to George Bailey after his "never been born" experience. His children and wife who drive him up the wall, his doting mother, even the garbage house he lives in -- he gains perspective, and realizes that these parts of his life which he's grown to think are an anchor holding him down are actually all treasures. We all stand to re-evaluate our friendships and our life situations, and realize that our lives are likely a lot better than we perceive!

3. There's the question "what is the meaning of life?". Generally, people will answer with something about how it's about living life to the fullest, live for today, get shitfaced and forget about it, worry about tomorrow tomorrow, maximize your excitement / fun / pleasure like an animal. Personally, I even know many Christians who have trouble answering, and say something about living a decent life and making sure you don't lose your personal salvation before you die. After coming back to It's A Wonderful Life (which doesn't claim to be a theological or "Christian" film, I realize) over the years, I've arrived at the understanding that we unavoidably affect the lives of our family, friends, coworkers, and even the world. It sounds grandiose, true, but we all leave a mark on those we touch in life. My personal hope is that the effect from my life will be a solid net-positive, and I frankly believe that God intends that for His children. It's nice to live as a hermit and pray and eventually squeeze our individual way into heaven, but what does that kind of life benefit God's creation and His intent for the world? So in a general way, the film "inspires" me with motivation to be more selfless, and in every interaction to take the more kind path when dealing with people. George Bailey's experience with Clarence is a very powerful exposition which turns the entire depressing circumstance on its head, and it's one of the most personal, visceral and touching parts in all of cinema, in my take.
I generalized it to "people" because I didn't want to sound too personal towards you.

Reading your post, I found it a great and profound explanation of what the film means to you, and not only that but of important philosophical questions we all would do well to ponder more often and more deeply.

I hope that my comments and our discussion here has not downgraded or messed up your enjoyment of the film, and it would be my hope that fleshing it out like this has even enhanced it! It seems like it probably has.

Even the most extreme rugged individualist Randian/Promethean Man (that's me!) would have to agree that a completely solitary life, even if full of achievement and brilliance, would be awfully empty. It would just be missing something, would it not?

What good is it to achieve if there's no one around to appreciate it? But no, that is vanity: there's always God who sees and appreciates.

Maybe it's this: God Himself is outward-looking. He isn't interested in sitting around all day gazing at his navel, contemplating Himself. Turning inward is narrow, constricting, shrinking. You're stifling your soul if you do that. All the great challenges into which we can go forth into "to strive and not to yield" involve other people somehow, at least tangentially. Why invent a flying car if you're the only one who will fly it? Lame. Why unlock the secrets of cancer if doing so won't affect the lives of billions? Why write if no one reads? Why build the iMac if you don't get to do a keynote talk unveiling it to anyone. Ah, but there we get into vanity again. How about this: why devote your life to truth and beauty and righteousness, making all the sacrifices that will entail, if there is no God who will in the end embrace you, say He understood and appreciated your efforts, and welcome you home?



God, too, is another person, and our relationship with Him is social.

I should wish Merry Christmas and Christ's blessings to you personally and everyone around you, also, in case we don't run into each other before the Holiday.
Thank you so much and a very Happy Christmas to you, too!

That's a great way of phrasing it, too, "in case I don't run into you again," I was thinking about that the other day wanting to wish a store clerk Merry Christmas but feeling like it's a little early, Christmas is a long way off.
 

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I have not seen this movie, it looked creepy and bizarre to me.
Uncanny valley of the conductor's face--super creepy looking.

But the book is a classic and I have been wanting to pick up a copy for my personal library.

Can an adult just enjoy this movie?

My tastes are kind of high brow, but many would see them as low brow. I like
Japanese cinema. Last week I re-watched the black and white ghost story Kuro Neko, or black cat.

so I don't know if I could sit through it as an adult. A lot of stuff is boring to me.


Is there a Christmas movie or video viewing thread?

I don't watch it every year, but last year I showed my parents the classic Twilight Zone Christmas episode
"Night of the Meek" starring Art Carney. They really enjoyed it.

This year I will probably watch the re-make from the 1980s Twilight Zone tv show.
But maybe the original, too. I have a house guest coming, so I was planning on showing them Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence. πŸ˜‚
It's a kids movie. But it's pretty neato.
 

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Well written feel good thread. I'd have to watch it again to give any in-depth opinions on the movie itself, I saw it once or twice with my grandparents and fam in an Imax theater. I was an edgy kid so I went into the experience thinking it was gonna be gushy g-rated lame, but I remember enjoying it enough. I remember most that it moved my grandfather to tears, he fell in love with it and made it a family tradition to watch it. Would also watch it off and on by himself in his den. He was and is a very oldschool, no BS straight-talkin' ex-Marine father figure type of man. Honestly reminds me much of Donald Trump. It moved me to see. Something about that got to me, made me think the movie represented something he either missed out on or lost and missed dearly, and the movie brought him back to a time he forgot about. I remember that more than anything in the actual movie. I need to call him, it's been way too long. Thanks for posting this. Good memories with the fam.
 
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