The distilled water question

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And then I copied this out to read later...

because I'm now getting acid indigestion from reading about stomach ph!
I read this in this article:
It is important to note that an ingredient's acid or alkaline forming tendency in the body has nothing to do with the actual pH of the food itself. Citrus fruits are acidic in nature, but citric acid actually has an alkalising effect in our body.
It looks a bit conflicting to me.
 

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I read this in this article:


It looks a bit conflicting to me.
According to " experts" everything you eat is demolished of any touted benefits by stomach acid.
Not sure why anybody would eat anything other than soylent green then.

But ph does effect how much the cells will excrete for some strange reason.
Your stomach acid really can't make every nutrient forever inert, once the nutrients move along ph changes and viola nutrients are viable again to our logos system!
 
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The best filters are those kangen or life ionizers. They filter & also ph the water. They’re expensive but last forever if you take care of them & change filters.
 
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According to " experts" everything you eat is demolished of any touted benefits by stomach acid.
Not sure why anybody would eat anything other than soylent green then.

But ph does effect how much the cells will excrete for some strange reason.
Your stomach acid really can't make every nutrient forever inert, once the nutrients move alone ph changes and viola nutrients are viable again to our logos system!
Well, remember that the mouth can absorb things directly into the bloodstream, and that taste itself has major impacts on neurology, so by the time it gets to the stomach, a ton of things have already happened, so those experts can go beg a corporation for more funding for their fake science, imho.
 

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It takes out everything from pharmacuticals, biologicals, flouride and even radioactive materials. No joke. It also leaves the trace minerals in. IMHO, it's the best water commercial water filter of it's class.
I have no personal experiences with either of the following but the Berkey one was recommended on a German site and since it looked very similar to the Alexapure one, I thought I'd check for comparative reviews. Berkey addresses differences on their website, so I thought I' share this.


Unsurprisingly, according to them, their system is better.

"Berkey Filters beats out Alexapure in overall cost, filtration, filter lifespan and even warranty. Berkey Filter offers an exclusive lifetime warranty on products while Alexapure offers a one-year warranty. When you compare these systems, the ideal choice for water filtration is the Big Berkey and Berkey Filters."
 

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I have no personal experiences with either of the following but the Berkey one was recommended on a German site and since it looked very similar to the Alexapure one, I thought I'd check for comparative reviews. Berkey addresses differences on their website, so I thought I' share this.


Unsurprisingly, according to them, their system is better.

"Berkey Filters beats out Alexapure in overall cost, filtration, filter lifespan and even warranty. Berkey Filter offers an exclusive lifetime warranty on products while Alexapure offers a one-year warranty. When you compare these systems, the ideal choice for water filtration is the Big Berkey and Berkey Filters."
All I know is I saw an independent website from a water testing lab that published a study stating what I stated above. I cannot find said website now, but am still looking.
 

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I live in an area where the water is heavily mineralized and poisoned with fluoride - not drinkable, IMO, even though the city repeatedly says it's "safe."

A few years ago, I bought a Waterwise that distills tap water - there is a ton of gunk left in the bottom of the tank after the water has been "steamed" through - that's what's in my drinking water.

The Waterwise is on sale at Amazon for $329.00 with free shipping. Can't recommend it enough - it makes the cleanest purest water we've ever had - I even give it to my dogs.


Considering what I find in the bottom of the tank after the tap water has been put through it, it's been well worth the price.
How do you clean your distiller of the nasty sludge? How often? Do yo use it exclusively for water (run it every day)?
 
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I have no personal experiences with either of the following but the Berkey one was recommended on a German site and since it looked very similar to the Alexapure one, I thought I'd check for comparative reviews. Berkey addresses differences on their website, so I thought I' share this.


Unsurprisingly, according to them, their system is better.

"Berkey Filters beats out Alexapure in overall cost, filtration, filter lifespan and even warranty. Berkey Filter offers an exclusive lifetime warranty on products while Alexapure offers a one-year warranty. When you compare these systems, the ideal choice for water filtration is the Big Berkey and Berkey Filters."
You can actually use either type of filter on the Berkey and Alexapure shells, they are identical. So you can buy t he Alexapure set which is cheaper initially, and then use Berkey replacement filters if you prefer them.
 

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How do you clean your distiller of the nasty sludge? How often? Do yo use it exclusively for water (run it every day)?
It makes a gallon of very pure drinking water at a time - I clean out the tank after each use and then after every 5-10 uses I use a product that is specifically for cleaning out the mineral deposits left behind in the tank - I get that on Amazon. My water is already softened by a whole house softener but this purifies that water.

It is for water only.
 

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It makes a gallon of very pure drinking water at a time - I clean out the tank after each use and then after every 5-10 uses I use a product that is specifically for cleaning out the mineral deposits left behind in the tank - I get that on Amazon. My water is already softened by a whole house softener but this purifies that water.

It is for water only.
Thanks! I have a distiller that is full of gunk, we use it only occasionally and no one has bothered to clean it out. :oops: Can you let me know about the mineral depost cleaner? I was thinking of using CLR, but I hesitate becasue I don't want to contaminate the reservoir with god knows what toxins.
 
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Question, if I get a distiller, can I make my own spirits if I was so inclined?
Yes. Most people when they first get into distilling start with a counter top water distiller. The column still @Rahaal is talking about is for advanced distilling autism. I have been using a pot still made out of a pressure cooker for at least 5 years.
I throw out the first 8 oz (or 300 ml) that comes through the distiller. This is covered in every basic distilling book.
I will say to watch out because it is a hobby that will really suck you in like beer making or coffee roasting or cheese making or any other "implicitly white" hobby. These things allow you to zone out because you are spending all your free time obsessing over every step in the process.
 

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You can actually use either type of filter on the Berkey and Alexapure shells, they are identical. So you can buy t he Alexapure set which is cheaper initially, and then use Berkey replacement filters if you prefer them.
Yes, I've read that, too, since yesterday. Berkey, unfortunately, never tested for microplastics filtration. They refer to filtering smaller particles from which filtering the bigger particles should logically follow but still, why not simply test for it.

ATM I'm undecided between a system that is installed right below the tap or a gravity filter. Do I go for full civ breakdown possibility? I might as well. With products like these, at least you know they are developed by real German/American engineers. ;)


Anyway, I'm still in the process of figuring out what might be the best fit.
 

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Ok fams, I have started experimenting with distilled water. I noticed today that I sweat like a Turk in a sauna. Wasnt sure if the extreme heat or the distilled water was the culprit. If any of you use it or have used it, please chime in on the pros and cons. Im trying to get away from the flouride and plastic bottled water, but noticed the distilled water has almost a plasticy taste. Is this because its being bottled while steaming hot and leeching the plastic out of the 1 gal jugs? Or am I overthinking this? Or should I go full Alex Jones and get the whole paycheck Berkey filter? Pill me please.

I've been drinking distilled water for years and recommend it to everyone. Distilled water is the purest water available; rainwater is distilled and people have been drinking that for millenia. Some people claim distilled water leeches nutrients from your body but that's not true. Inorganic minerals will be washed away but organic minerals will remain in your body.

If you're going to do this forget about buying plastic containers at the grocery store. It's better to invest in a high quality home distiller, and then your cost will be pennies to the gallon.
 

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Thanks! I have a distiller that is full of gunk, we use it only occasionally and no one has bothered to clean it out. :oops: Can you let me know about the mineral depost cleaner? I was thinking of using CLR, but I hesitate becasue I don't want to contaminate the reservoir with god knows what toxins.
Will do. I’ll post a link here when I get back to my computer. On my phone at the moment.

Here it is:


This product works really really well.
 
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I think you should read up on hypotonic vs isotonic vs hypertonic saline solutions. The thing is that even normal tap water is hypotonic and thus draws salts from surrounding tissue, simply because most tap water have less salt concentration than what is in the body (which is isotonic). Sure, distilled water is much less salty than tap water, but in the extra grams per liter it would dilate the body compared to normal tap water is probably negligible.

I also read a discussion about it where one analyzed the daily nutritional needs an individual has for salts and minerals. The conclusion from that discussion was that daily dietary needs for minerals substantially exceed what is supplied from the consumption of tap water. In fact, the tap water only supplied a mere fraction of daily dietary needs. The replacement of tap water with distilled water didn't make much of a difference on these dietary needs. So you will need to get those minerals from other dietary sources irregardless of what kind of water you drink daily.

Also people who live high up in the mountains probably get the water from precipitation. I think such water is considerably less saline than water from a well, and I have never heard about diseases and inflictions from a high altitude life style.

Btw, there is a Wim Hof Breathing app that is available for Android and iPhone I believe. It is pretty dope. Just don't use his breathing technique while driving or bathing :cry:



When you distill alcohol from a source, there are other nasty things in there that are inclined to follow with the distillation process. Good distillers use precise temperature regulation and the alcohol is distilled repeatedly. The multi-stage distillation process for alcohol is called "column distillation".

I think this is a case of worry for distilled water. If water contains phenols and other volatile chemicals, the distillation process will not remove them. So if you want to also remove these chemicals, then you will need a good carbon filter.



I really doubt that pH make any significant difference. The stomach maintains a pH level of 1.5 - 3.5 to maintain digestion and the small intestines after that maintain a pH of about 6 - 7. Lower pH in water would simply mean that the stomach will need a little bit less acid for the digestion. But perhaps the digestion process is more complex than that. Water and other liquids are likely to pass the stomach into the intestines within a matter of minutes. Other compounds such as fat and proteins probably remain longer in the stomach while being broken down by the acids.
Ph definitely makes a difference. Farmers that grow the best produce ph their water. I knew a farmer who had rabbits, cows, & other animals he sold to a top restaurant in Napa valley. He was phing the water for all of the animals. Top athletes use the water ionizers that cost 3-5k. I want to get one but they’re expensive. They last forever though. If you drink coffee which is acidic, alkaline water can neutralize the acidity.
 
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Ok fams, I have started experimenting with distilled water. I noticed today that I sweat like a Turk in a sauna. Wasnt sure if the extreme heat or the distilled water was the culprit. If any of you use it or have used it, please chime in on the pros and cons. Im trying to get away from the flouride and plastic bottled water, but noticed the distilled water has almost a plasticy taste. Is this because its being bottled while steaming hot and leeching the plastic out of the 1 gal jugs? Or am I overthinking this? Or should I go full Alex Jones and get the whole paycheck Berkey filter? Pill me please.
It tastes like it does because there are zero minerals and no electrolytes, which your body needs.


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I'm lucky. I drilled a well on my property, the water is super clean, and tested close to "soft" with no contaminents, sulphur, or iron. Tastes as good as Ozarka bottled water. I only do basic 2-stage filtering with 20 and 10 micron filter cartridges.
 
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It tastes like it does because there are zero minerals and no electrolytes, which your body needs.


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look into victor schauberger and the fun facts about water.

and mebbe genesis where God separates the water from the water!


and of course laszlo boras his work on DDW who knew water was so much fun!
 

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How do you clean your distiller of the nasty sludge? How often? Do yo use it exclusively for water (run it every day)?
I clean mine maybe once a week. There is a video on YouTube of a guy using distilled vinegar to clean his. He says if you don't let it run bone dry then it needs less cleaning.
 

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I have been using distilled water for over ten years. I was on a strange diet and at first wasn't using much for drinking, drinking mainly vegetable juice. As my juice consumption dropped, I used more and more distilled water for drinking. I did get in a little trouble from mineral depletion and didn't recognize what was happening (it felt a bit like a urinary tract infection) after I had fasted a lot and/or used a lot of distilled water to stay hydrated while working in the Texas heat. When I finally realized what was happening, I started supplementing with a multimineral pill. If the amount on the label is for say three per day as a full dose I generally use only one, but maybe more if I am working in the heat or fasting.

When the diet I was using was developed their probably wasn't RO technology which is why distilled was specified. I bought this distiller and it costs me about 3kwh (25cents) for each gallon. It comes with a glass jug and I bought extras. We run it about three times a day.

For a while my son worked for Paul (sp) corporation which makes filters and he claims RO can get the flouride out.

Supposedly flouride displaces iodine in the thyroid, which might be the reason Americans are fat, stupid and complacent nowadays.
 

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look into victor schauberger and the fun facts about water.

and mebbe genesis where God separates the water from the water!


and of course laszlo boras his work on DDW who knew water was so much fun!

The experimental conditions by which electromagnetic signals (EMS) of low frequency can be emitted by diluted aqueous solutions of some bacterial and viral DNAs are described. That the recorded EMS and nanostructures induced in water carry the DNA information (sequence) is shown by retrieval of that same DNA by classical PCR amplification using the TAQ polymerase, including both primers and nucleotides. Moreover, such a transduction process has also been observed in living human cells exposed to EMS irradiation. These experiments suggest that coherent long range molecular interaction must be at work in water so to allow the observed features. The quantum field theory analysis of the phenomenon is presented.


Electromagnetic signals are produced by aqueous nanostructures derived from bacterial DNA sequences

Water matters!
 

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. Is this because its being bottled while steaming hot and leeching the plastic out of the 1 gal jugs?
Absolutely yes. (chemistry background here)
Heat and UV are the two main drivers of plastic degradation and absolutely will accelerate the leaching of plasticisers and other nasties into your water.
Also you should know that drinking completely pure H2O is not good for you. Water naturally has many ions in it which are essential for your health. Pure water can cause ions to move out of your cells due to the concentration gradient.
The best water is water that has been through a UV and reverse osmosis filter. This will remove basically all nasty chemicals and gets many which are missed by simple carbon filters. The first step of most RO filters is in fact an activated carbon filter. The best RO filters also have a final remineralisation step at the end to replace the essential ions which were lost in the filtration process (Mg, Ca, K, etc)
 

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There are many spectacularly stupid posts in this thread

I thought distilled water was for babies, and doesn't really contain anything beneficial towards hydration and minerals? Am I mistaken here?
Obviously *water* will be beneficial towards *hydration*
If you distil it there's no minerals in it however.
Not sure why people obsess over that, water is a miniscule source of minerals (whatever they may be, that will differ depending on soil and ground conditions anyways), you get your minerals through food.

I keep hearing it drains the body of the useful salts and minerals if used in excess. But for a few days a week, I think it should have a good toxin ridding powers. I will let you know how I feel in a few weeks. I will check back in with my progress report in a few weeks.
Well, water does drain the body of salt - you literally piss it out. Washing out byproducts of your metabolism is part of what it does.
This is called "being human". Ditto with the "toxin ridding powers", water is used by the kidneys to wash out toxins from your body.


Distilling water removes basically everything from the water and to put it simply, water has a max capacity of stuff (good and/or bad) it can hold. This means that it is even worse to put distilled water into plastic bottles as it just pulls and pulls plastic (estrogen basically) into the water.

Distilled water (without the plastic bottle) either distilled yourself or purchased in a glass bottle is often used for "detoxing" or water fasting as it, due to the same principle as above, will pull toxins from your body but also the good stuff so isn't recommended for long-term use. You can re-mineralize it and even re-structure distilled water if you want but all that is time consuming.

Best thing to do is do your research on the best filter you can buy. Bench top works. Installed under the sink is even simpler for you.
There's literally no evidence or reason to believe that distilled water will pull anything from your body.

It tastes like it does because there are zero minerals and no electrolytes, which your body needs.


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I'm lucky. I drilled a well on my property, the water is super clean, and tested close to "soft" with no contaminents, sulphur, or iron. Tastes as good as Ozarka bottled water. I only do basic 2-stage filtering with 20 and 10 micron filter cartridges.
Your article actually debunks itself:
"This lack of minerals and additives would only pose a significant risk if distilled water was the only fluid or food that a person consumed."
If you're concerned with not getting salt through your water, add half a teaspoon of salt to whatever you're cooking.



As for the rest of the thread, I know nothing about US water qualities. If you wanna filter go ahead, don't mind me... Just some statements are too out there to stand uncorrected.
 

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Is there anyone in the "civilized world" who doesn't get enough salt in their diet?

I buy distilled water, in gallon containers made of HDPE, the store brand of the supermarket, usually $0.99. The label says it was steam distilled before they ran it through a charcoal filter. I find it tastes better than their "spring water" but the worst-tasting is the reverse osmosis and it's not worth any effort to come up with an explanation. Rain water no matter where you live could be very dangerous if it's not boiled because of possible microorganism growth in the decaying plant matter and dead insects, etc. of a roof and gutters, etc. Fungi and yeasts more than bacteria. All of those microbes would go right through an 8-micron filter.

It seems to me it's paranoid delusion to think that the body's minerals are "leached out" by drinking pure water.
 

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Vitruvian_Man is right!

Is there anyone in the "civilized world" who doesn't get enough salt in their diet?

I buy distilled water, in gallon containers made of HDPE, the store brand of the supermarket, usually $0.99. The label says it was steam distilled before they ran it through a charcoal filter. I find it tastes better than their "spring water" but the worst-tasting is the reverse osmosis and it's not worth any effort to come up with an explanation. Rain water no matter where you live could be very dangerous if it's not boiled because of possible microorganism growth in the decaying plant matter and dead insects, etc. of a roof and gutters, etc. Fungi and yeasts more than bacteria. All of those microbes would go right through an 8-micron filter.

It seems to me it's paranoid delusion to think that the body's minerals are "leached out" by drinking pure water.
I have a strong suspicion that the anti distilled water articles are put about/paid for by bottled water companies such as Evian. Rainwater is distilled water, would you be OK drinking that, without fear it's gonna 'leach' minerals out of your body?
 

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Ok fams, I have started experimenting with distilled water. I noticed today that I sweat like a Turk in a sauna. Wasnt sure if the extreme heat or the distilled water was the culprit. If any of you use it or have used it, please chime in on the pros and cons. Im trying to get away from the flouride and plastic bottled water, but noticed the distilled water has almost a plasticy taste. Is this because its being bottled while steaming hot and leeching the plastic out of the 1 gal jugs? Or am I overthinking this? Or should I go full Alex Jones and get the whole paycheck Berkey filter? Pill me please.
Get an RO filtration system. It removes the Chlorine and Fluoride (some do) but the minerals that make good water taste, well, good, remain. Also, put in a pinch of salt. Just a tiny bit.
 
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