So, I had another breakup lmao

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This entire system of people unbounded by any shared duty and letting maximum egotism unleashed produces the most misery for everyone involved; yet people are so short-sighted they believe that they are free and are therefore living the best arrangement possible. Fools, the whole lot of them.

Today I pulled my 3rd 19yr old so far this year. She left her boyfriend after getting some attention. Poor guy probably was in love with her and got dropped like a hot pototo the minute it suited her because that is what women do. Now she gets to chase an illusion, a fun game in which she will try to manipulate me and make me fall in love, and I will dangle that possibility in front of her face but never let her have it. Since something fully had is no longer valued, the desire for the thing depends on the distance from actually obtaining it. She doesn’t realize it yet but she’s going to fall for me, not visa versa, and the end of it all is her getting heartbroken. If she had a lick of sense she would have kept her nice boyfriend, but women would rather be heartbroken than godforbid… bored. Well, you want it, you’ll get it.
Revenge seduction... It's the thrill of domination, am I right?

What I want to ask is, how exactly do you go about getting a wahmen wrapped around your little finger without coming across as *too* interested in her? I researched 'game' related material years ago and still have some books at home on this subject, but I still never quite understood how a man is able to talk to and seduce a woman without being/perceived as "too interested" in her. I always imagine that the woman who you talk to would be thinking to herself "this guy is chatting me up so he must want to fuck me", which would put you on a slight "value" disadvantage in how she perceives you. A woman knowing that you are interested in her by giving her attention is not far off of "loving" her and giving away all of your power, right? Or am I missing something here?

Are you able to get these young, fertile wahmen without doing the "dancing monkey" routine, like how RooshV describes it? I always hated the idea of "putting on a song and dance" for a wahmen to gain favor with her. Memorizing "routines" to run on a wahmen who catches your fancy always irked me as being way too "try hard" for my tastes and I always resented having to be the one who puts in ALL the effort into a social interaction to get anything from it, because woman have no personal agency.

I mean, we have to be real here. I ain't no fornicator who has some stupid ambition to sleep with hundreds of thots, but a man has to have SOME game if he wants to land himself a decent wife and pass on his genes to the future... Short of just plain old kidnap/sex dungeon rape, of course.

INB4 your a Chad who is tall and has a chiseled jawline, so wahmen jut throw themselves at you and you don't require no game, lol.

Also, it's not too late to stop your fornicating ways, ala RooshV. You cucked some poor dude out of his 19 year old air headed thot who doesn't know any better because she is only guided by emotional tingles. Playing with some thot is one thing, but taking the property of another guy for you to play such games with a woman is just shameful behavior to me. I would never try to "get involved" with a married or 'taken' woman, and neither should you.
 
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I am gonna admit some personal stuff here.

I never had a "girlfriend". I had pussy and women who wanted to be my "girlfriend" for most of my active life past 15 or so.

When I got married we saw each other for a shory time, she got preggers, and we got married. Now we are on 23 years.

Forget "girlfriends" mah dude. It's either pussy, Incel or get married.
 
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Revenge seduction... It's the thrill of domination, am I right?

What I want to ask is, how exactly do you go about getting a wahmen wrapped around your little finger without coming across as *too* interested in her? I researched 'game' related material years ago and still have some books at home on this subject, but I still never quite understood how a man is able to talk to and seduce a woman without being/perceived as "too interested" in her. I always imagine that the woman who you talk to would be thinking to herself "this guy is chatting me up so he must want to fuck me", which would put you on a slight "value" disadvantage in how she perceives you. A woman knowing that you are interested in her by giving her attention is not far off of "loving" her and giving away all of your power, right? Or am I missing something here?

Are you able to get these young, fertile wahmen without doing the "dancing monkey" routine, like how RooshV describes it? I always hated the idea of "putting on a song and dance" for a wahmen to gain favor with her. Memorizing "routines" to run on a wahmen who catches your fancy always irked me as being way too "try hard" for my tastes and I always resented having to be the one who puts in ALL the effort into a social interaction to get anything from it, because woman have no personal agency.

I mean, we have to be real here. I ain't no fornicator who has some stupid ambition to sleep with hundreds of thots, but a man has to have SOME game if he wants to land himself a decent wife and pass on his genes to the future... Short of just plain old kidnap/sex dungeon rape, of course.

INB4 your a Chad who is tall and has a chiseled jawline, so wahmen jut throw themselves at you and you don't require no game, lol.

Also, it's not too late to stop your fornicating ways, ala RooshV. You cucked some poor dude out of his 19 year old air headed thot who doesn't know any better because she is only guided by emotional tingles. Playing with some thot is one thing, but taking the property of another guy for you to play such games with a woman is just shameful behavior to me. I would never try to "get involved" with a married or 'taken' woman, and neither should you.
I’ll preface this with a disclaimer and call of bullshit to anyone out there: womanizing for me is a hobby, and I mack in every single opportunity out of sheer second nature habit, but yet MY SUCCESS RATE IS IN THE SINGLE DIGITS if I count all interactions as the denominator. And that despite the fact that I’m good-looking, muscular and have money, but still many women are simply not interested for whatever reason or waste my time trying to get free attention w/o ever becoming sexual. Right out the gate: I straight call anyone who claims to get substantially better results than what I get as either a internet liar, a drug dealer, or a famous musician.

Some manosphere theorists claimed that the whole “negging” routine was supposedly the way to counteract outing your intentions in the approach. Problem is that, first, a decent percentage of women will get butthurt over even a playful neg and rapport will go into a downward spiral after she stews on it. Second and worse, “negging” doesn’t really work in most cases: if you even talk to most attractive women, they just assume what you want (which they’re right, of course) and no fake act can cover it up.

Women actually “fall in love” due to their own egos. Their ego motivates them to be better than other women, and you the man are proof of that superiority. She mistakes you as the cause of her emotions when really you are an object of social proof in a self-esteem battle with herself. So while it’s true that there needs to be an obstacle to her obtaining you in order to create attraction, that obstacle should be “other women’s attentions” rather than just your blasé demeanor. Now you can deploy aloofness, but only when she can suspect that more attractive women are causing you to forget about her. If you’re just completely aloof, women won’t bother with you. What does this mean in practice? WHEN IN PERSON FACE-TO-FACE, BE HIGHLY AGGRESSIVE AND ESCALATE ALWAYS, BUT NEVER CALL HER AND ONLY INITIATE TEXT HALF OF THE TIME RELATIVE TO HER FREQUENCY AND WITH LESS CONTENT THAN HER. VARY RESPONSE TIMES, MOSTLY LONG WAITS WITH OCCASIONAL IMMEDIATE RESPONSES, ALWAYS LOW EFFORT, NO PUNCTUATION, SPELLING ERRORS UNFIXED. PURPOSE SHOULD BE TO ARRAGE MEETUPS, DIP OUT ON CONVO WHEN NOT CONDUCIVE TO THIS END.

I use an approach of surprise escalation to create interest and frame everything as entertainment (which it is) that I could get from many sources, a dime a dozen (which it is as it’s a numbers game). Avoid boring coffee dates or netflix and chill. Go for novelty or adrenaline. Sell them dreams that you’ll never really give them. Finally, the goal is to create emotional momentum, so strike while the iron is hot. Always escalate or die. She wants a challenge as well: you’re the crazy straight fucking player she wishes she could make into a boyfriend, so you still gotta be about 10% so-called “beta” (don’t listen to internet bullshit saying 0%).

I look back at some of things I did with women in my extreme youth and am just ashamed, tbh. I didn’t have anyone to tell me the way and wasted much time and effort in trial and error. It took years to get into my groove and appear “natural.” ALL SOCIALIZATION IS PRACTICE. Isolation and study can give you big picture insights, but it’s a double-edged sword because it makes you seem autistic and socially awkward. Don’t become trapped in a vicious cycle of isolation. That isolation shit will make you bitter. Power is a social phenomenon. Never give up despite initial failure. Later on your failures won’t even register: they’re just part of the cost of doing business so to speak. Eventually you’ll enjoy this practice -getting better- and it becomes a virtuous cycle of self-reinforcing confidence and success.

it's not too late to stop your fornicating ways, ala RooshV
Hard disagree. I don’t respect RooshV or anyone that does a 180 degree turn after their early 20’s. What I advocate is both right and good for men given the current political situation and I can defend every word on both an ethical and pragmatic basis. My way is correct.
 
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