Questionnaire: How are you able to detect government lies while so many other people are unable to.

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My own experience was more accident than anything. I never liked being told what to think and what to do. Part of me never grew out of the teenage "fuck you, I'll do what I want". My parents were typical working class boomer retards. I was told the "democrats are the party of the working man". Then a friend introduced me to Rush Limbaugh in the early 90s. What he said made a lot more sense than anything my parents ever said. When I was old enough to vote they threatened to disown me because I wouldn't vote for Clinton in 96. They did anyway a year later because they didn't like my girlfriend (now wife). In short if the government and the media push something, I instinctively hate it. It's kind of childish, but it's worked for me.
 

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Racial jokes as a child taught me there were different groups. I learned all the stereotypes, and saw them play out real time in college. I then became brainwashed, but what you've seen can't be unseen. A friend challenged me on the holocaust, so I set out to prove him wrong. Because of that foundation, when I discovered the truth I did not deny it. Rather, I thought, "Huh so all those old stereotypes were right about the Jews. I wonder what else they have lied about?"

Of course, I think there was a major personality component. I never quite fit the mold. That's probably why the Jews told my parents to put me on Ritalin. I probably would've figured it out a lot sooner.
 

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open mindedness + cynicism + paranoia
 

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Simple. Once I realised the Holocaust was a lie, I stopped accepting the going narrative and started to question everything ( including doing my own research where possible )- after that, it's easy to separate the lies from the truth.
 

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I've loved history since 4th grade, especially European history. There was always something alluring about the loser of the 20th century, Germany. My mind wasn't poisoned by Schindler's List styled propaganda when I checked my first Swastika covered book out of the school library. By the time we got to WW2 in high school I had been reading about it for 5 or so years. I was a little surprised when we skipped panzer aces and the whole of the eastern front to talk about the Holocaust and the Tuskegee airmen. The teacher preferred to talk about incestuous Hitler rumors than about the 80 million people that died. We spent more time talking about the Kristallnacht than the causes of the war and more time talking about the Holocaust than the war. This was the first time that what I knew conflicted with the narrative. How could the victors take the moral high ground when they ethnically cleansed eastern Europe of Germans and knowingly bombed civilian targets? How could the Jews be the main victims of the war when more Russian soldiers died fighting? It wasn't even the new narrative that bothered me as much as it was its fanatic observance. Seeing a grown man who was the nicest person in the school gleefully celebrating dead soldiers and destroyed cities was something that made me think "this is propaganda". Being able to admit that what I'm learning isn't the truth is the first step. Then I'd argue about the wage gap in class. Then global warming. Then immigration and abortion. All of these narratives that everyone believes in are easily refuted by an afternoon of research. By the time I was a freshmen in college I had noticed that most enemies to what I believe in are Jewish. From there it just escalated. Where most people find comfort in believing what their told, I almost find it irritating now. I doubt nearly everything. When I see something I ask myself "who does this benefit"? Its never the people so that means its the people in charge and of course that means the Jews. It all makes sense when you can just admit that its the Jews. That's what I find myself thinking at least when I'm self censoring by referring Jews as "They" while arguing with normies. "They" to a normie conjures up pictures of Richard Nixon and John D. Rockefeller. A people whose greed and corruption has instilled a myopic attitude. "They" accidentally destroy the world and our institutions out of the need for just one more beach side vacation house. To a normie "They" can't be conspiring for a global government because they would never be able to get along long enough to do so. How could 100 Carnegies all speaking different languages with companies that compete against each other conspire to do anything but play a passive aggressive game of golf once a year. It all makes sense though if you switch out business moguls for the nationless Jew. People that have loyalties only to themselves. The goyim sees capitalism and liberalism as an end while the Jew sees them as means. They see no point in being loyal to a concept the way the White man does. They bask in the chaos they've created while the rest of us suffer. They have one goal, total and complete hegemony. Just being able to admit this lets you see many truths that normies can't.
 

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I think a big thing is being able to logically take things apart and see that the explanations we're given for things can't be true and that pure incompetence from leaders can't be an explanation either. That allows one to actually consider the existence of some malevolent force (like Jews, globalists, Lucifer) and to consider an explanation that fits the concept of 'the big lie' which so many struggle with.
Open mind.

Able to actually consider abstract concepts and think about things in context. Ex. Today, not believing in racial equality is taboo, 50 years ago, it was the norm, and was for all of time before that. Why is it different today? Should it be?
Yeah growing up I would see or think of things that went against the beliefs society pushes on us and then I would think about how for all of human history people believed the opposite and it wouldn't sit right with me so it allowed for me to maintain a healthy level of skepticism and an open mind about things.
 
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I've always been a philosopher, a reader, a fortean, a conspiracy theorist, and have spent long periods without TV, currently about 5 years, tho I do stream.

Red-pilled around 2014 when ISIS was kicking off and internuts pointed me to the jew. It's been a traumatic journey to go from thinking that governments are simply incompetant to realising their active malevolence, and that's a large part of why normies go along with it all: an inability to change the pillars of their belief system, especially after the age of 25 or so.

The term 'sheep' applied to normies is usually used in a derogatory sense, but its roots are the many mentions of the term in the Bible. That's how God created most people: it's a feature, not a bug. The problem is evil leaders, not people's sheep-like tendancies. But even people-sheep can choose who to follow.
 

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I'm a sperg, so I have an innate inability to believe something just for the sake of social harmony. Not only can normies be forced to do things, they can fool themselves into thinking it was their free choice to do it.
 

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What it is about you personally that you think makes you able to detect covid lies, conspiracies and general media lies while many others can't?

My second question for you all is: In your own opinion, what is it about these other people who cannot detect media lies that makes them so willing to believe the narrative?
Even before I was finally redpilled (my moment was back in 2009 when I learned about 9/11- millenials on this forum may relate), I smelled some bullshit but I couldnΒ΄t put my finger on it yet. I remember back when I was a little boy in elementary school, there was this huge anti- Aids campaign. There were stickers everywhere which said "Gib Aids keine Chance" (Don't give AIDS a chance). I hated them. I didnΒ΄t know why but I hated them. The stickers made me downright nervous.
Now I know the big picture. The whole campaign was aimed at introducing more blatant sex education in schools and, of course, covering up the fact that AIDS is a gay disease. Dr. Fauci was the head of the campaign btw, for those of you who don't already know.
Another thing was my history class about German history in ww2. I hated it. It simply didnΒ΄t feel right. I had no counter narrative back in the days, but the whole thing seemed kind of artificial to me.
A close friend of mine had two older sisters and both were on some weird green christian communist trip. They had posters in her rooms with the "cow farts are dangerous" meme on it. For younger people out there: this ridicolous cow fart meme is older than you think. This was back in 2003 or so. I couldnΒ΄t take it seriously and made fun of my friend.
When I got older, we had "melting pot" classes in my English class for 6 months. Again: I hated it. There was something fishy about it. The teacher kept telling us how great the melting pot was in the U.S. and that we were backward in Germany. I instinctively felt that this was all mindless and insubstantial drivel, and that it was somehow being "forced" on us.
Last but not least: The band "BΓΆhse Onkelz". They were a very successful German rock band and were considered far-right, although they cut ties with the neo-Nazi scene very early in their career. They are from my region and were very popular among us, even though they were considered "secret nazis". The world told me that this band was evil, but I liked the songs. I remember playing their song "no amnesty for mtv" all day long. I loved it, even though I felt somehow "guilty" for listening to it. This song was number 1 in Germany back then.

Long story short: These were all examples of me sensing bullshit before I got redpilled (the list could be much longer). So I was basically blind, but could still somehow sense what is right and what is wrong. Normies have no excuse ;). Especially now that the lies stink to high heaven.

In your own opinion, what is it about these other people who cannot detect media lies that makes them so willing to believe the narrative?
Many people are simply dumb. They can't think in larger patterns, let alone generations. But above all, they live in fear - even if they would never admit it. There are only a few leaders and many sheep. The ancient Greeks defined the term "idiot" as a person unable to think beyond the private sphere. Normies are idiots. And their only chance for salvation is when the balance of power changes and the evil shepherds are replaced by good shepherds. They will always remain sheep, though.
And the normie senses that the evil sheperds have more power than the good shepards right now, and they side with power no matter what. Because of fear.
 

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>Able to actually consider abstract concepts

I've noticed some people -- particularly blacks -- have a VERY difficult time understanding abstract thought. Some people are unable to give DIRECTIONS to places they know the way to because they can't describe things abstractly.

How can I detect gov't lies? Their lips are moving. I mean, when was the last time they were honest about ANYTHING?
 

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It's gotten to a point of being very close to the inverse of a given topic or mainstream political position as reported being the closer to the truth, or the inverse being how things SHOULD be, but are not. Sometimes its not a complete 180 degree inversion, where half truths are put out.

Example of 180 degrees, covid vaccines are "safe and effective", obviously completely the opposite is true
 

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