Putin Looks to Make Equating Stalin, USSR to Hitler, Nazi Germany Illegal

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BY JENNI FINK ON 5/6/21 AT 12:59 PM EDT

Russian legislators are looking to ban people from likening the behavior of the Soviet Army and Joseph Stalin to the actions of Nazi soldiers and Adolf Hitler.

Russia's president, Vladimir Putin, instructed the bill to be introduced after a meeting of the Presidential Council for Culture and Arts in October. Opponents of the legislation have criticized it for infringing on free speech. However, the bill's backers argue it's not about cracking down on what people say but about recognizing Russia's contribution to Hitler's downfall.

"The Soviet army is a liberator, and therefore a benefactor of Europe,"
Elena Yampolskaya, the chair of the Committee on Culture, said in a statement. "It is possible and necessary to discuss any specific situations, facts, documents. Just not forgetting that the Soviet Union, the Russian people fought the main struggle against the universal evil of Nazism.”

Russia's involvement in World War II is a complicated story that puts the country on both the Axis and Allied sides. For nearly two years, Russia collaborated with Germany as both forces moved through Eastern Europe, bringing with them death, destruction, brutal occupation, and the shipping of people away to forced labor and concentration camps.

However, after Germany invaded Russia in 1941, the Nazi regime became an enemy of Russia as its army joined the fight against Hitler. Russia's winter and the army's relentlessness during the Battle of Stalingrad delivered a heavy blow to Hitler's forces and is considered by many historians to be a major turning point in the war in favor of the Allied forces.


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With Russian President Vladimir Putin's support, legislators introduced a bill banning people from comparing Soviet Union's actions during World War II to those of Nazi Germany's.

The Soviet army was also responsible for liberating Warsaw, Krakow and Auschwitz, the most infamous Nazi concentration camp where more than a million people were killed.

While Russia helped bring release to those suffering in concentration camps at the hands of the Nazis, its leader Stalin is considered one of the most ruthless figures in history. He created the Gulag, a forced labor camp system that imprisoned about 18 million people and subjected them to brutal conditions. After the war, he claimed swaths of Europe for his own and lowered an "iron curtain" down, blocking East Berlin off from the world and starting the Cold War.

Putin has been trying to crack down on criticism of Russia's actions during World War II for years. In 2014, he signed a law that made distorting the Soviet Union's role a criminal offense punishable by up to five years in prison.

"It is our duty to defend the truth about the victory; otherwise what shall we say to our children if a lie, like a disease, spreads all over the world?" Putin said in a speech in January 2020. "We must set facts against outrageous lies and attempts to distort history ... This work is our duty as a winning country and our responsibility to the future generations."


Mark Kramer, director of the Cold War Studies Project at Harvard's Davis Center, in 2020 that the heroism of the Soviet soldiers is "undeniable" but said the "much darker side of the Soviet war effort" is also unavoidable. He called it "unfortunate" that Russia only tolerates "glorious images and speeches" and said that a "more even-handed discussion" would be in the nation's best interest.

The bill, which was published in the State Duma's records on Wednesday, blamed the media, including publications in Russia, for making "derogatory" statements about the Soviet Union's role in World War II. It would forbid people from publicly comparing actions of the USSR's military and leaders to those of the Nazi's leadership, including in the media and on the internet.

Its authors said the goal was to put a legislative barrier between "obvious insults to our grandfathers and great-grandfathers," while "preserving space for historical research" and scientific discussions, according to a translation of the bill.

"The family has its black sheep. Can particulars discredit the whole? Never. Good remains good, evil remains evil, " Yampolskaya said in a statement.
 

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"The Soviet army is a liberator, and therefore a benefactor of Europe," Elena Yampolskaya, the chair of the Committee on Culture, said in a statement. "It is possible and necessary to discuss any specific situations, facts, documents. Just not forgetting that the Soviet Union, the Russian people fought the main struggle against the universal evil of Nazism.”
Liberator meme? What the hell is a universal evil... glad that Communism isn't one.
 

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In the former Soviet Union, the war is framed as a war of extermination and although one can debate what Hitler thought about Slavs, it's clear that he was planning to settle the lands west of the Urals with German farmer-soldiers and probably didn't plan on giving the natives much say. Even if Hitler loved the Slavs, the war did kill a lot of people and the scars are still there.

Speaking of Hitler, in Mein Kampf he goes into great detail about how in propaganda, you must not be objective or try to present an opponent as respectable. Even if you aren't completely right, it is usually preferable to pretend that you are, rather than let people start doubting the truth of your cause. Preserving the old narrative of the "Great Patriotic War" helps to preserve some nationalistic enthusiasm and support for more military spending, since you can pretend that the next Hitler is just around the corner. It also gives the government some legitimacy because they can say that despite how bad the economy is, at least they can stop invaders from exterminating the nation.

Letting people criticize Stalin or the war would probably lead to more self-criticism and nihilism amongst Russians.
 

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So you're an avid defender of the entire German invasion of Russia now ? Or is this just another tool you're using amidst the miriad of other threads about the same exact topic.

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-ea...s-in-ukraine-march-to-honor-nazi-ss-soldiers/ - *Everyone downvoting my post should explain why nearly every neo-nazi in Ukraine and Russia is a CIA glownigger plant, even one hundred of them wouldn't live up to a single German soldier in WW2.
 
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In the former Soviet Union, the war is framed as a war of extermination and although one can debate what Hitler thought about Slavs, it's clear that he was planning to settle the lands west of the Urals with German farmer-soldiers and probably didn't plan on giving the natives much say. Even if Hitler loved the Slavs, the war did kill a lot of people and the scars are still there.

Speaking of Hitler, in Mein Kampf he goes into great detail about how in propaganda, you must not be objective or try to present an opponent as respectable. Even if you aren't completely right, it is usually preferable to pretend that you are, rather than let people start doubting the truth of your cause. Preserving the old narrative of the "Great Patriotic War" helps to preserve some nationalistic enthusiasm and support for more military spending, since you can pretend that the next Hitler is just around the corner. It also gives the government some legitimacy because they can say that despite how bad the economy is, at least they can stop invaders from exterminating the nation.

Letting people criticize Stalin or the war would probably lead to more self-criticism and nihilism amongst Russians.
seems that u live in Russia or know the internal Russian politics very well (y), besides one thing: people do criticize Stalin
 

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Letting people criticize Stalin or the war would probably lead to more self-criticism and nihilism amongst Russians.
Criticism of Stalin happens all the time in Russia. Even Putin has made reserved criticism of him. Strong agree with your post though, I love uncle Adolph as much as anyone else around here but the facts are what they are. He was going to turn Russia West of the Urals into greater Germany. Also the USSRs war against Finland and occupation of the Baltic’s were just as rational as NS Germany correcting the wrongs of WW1. They sucked for the natives but from a strictly cold analysis letting the border of the USSR end at St Petersburg really was a huge security threat. The Brits who were hostile to the USSR at the point would have set up shop in the Baltic’s. In totally cold logical terms Stalin really was doing what was best for the USSR regardless of what you think of him and that state.

The USSRs role in the war really is complicated but neo nazis and people like the OP passive aggressively shilling for WW3 have really cold takes on it. Basically the war was a fratricidal shitshow and the Germans grievances were very real. But trying to make Western Russia greater Germany was a big mistake and neo nazis who say that the Russians should have rolled over and allowed that are useless.

I expect that this legislation will be mostly used against Azov battalion style retards who live in Russia of which there are many. Every other day here you have FSB kicking in the doors of such morons. And letting people shit on WW2 veterans and the memories of Russians who lived through that nightmare now of all times won’t do Russia any good when they need to be ready for another round at a moments notice.
 

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Saying that Russia faked the death of communism so it can lure america into being communist is stupid, the same (((people))) who have led america to be communist (as it is socially, given the dogmas and bans on race-mixing, no-fault divorce, abortion, homosexuality, transgenderism, and others have been overturned) led Russia to become the soviet union. Why are people so quick to believe some other country is the real threat or cause a of a global ideology being spread? It clearly has to do with powerful deceitful individuals manipulating people in high places and the masses they control. They want people to think that a particular country is the enemy so they can push their agendas through faux patriotism. This is why so many people think China is who is controlling the democrat party, as if it were evwr that simple.

The same soviet power structure exists in Russia and so do many of their old policies such as no-fault divorce and legalized abortion, but they use the orthodox church in order to control people better evern though the same people in the russian government today were likely in the officially atheist anti-christian soviet government yesterday. It's just a power structure full of individuals wanting power, serving more powerful individuals, not much has changed.

Stalin was less communist in his policies than the most conservative american states are today, because he re-banned no-fault divorce, abortion, and homosexuality.
 

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Russia is pretty divided on the legacy Communism. In the logic of Kremlin, this divide needs to be bridged for the purposes of stability and national cohesion. (Again, while there are probably many individuals in Kremlin who frown on Communism and love the Tsar, they know how the Kremlin works. Kremlin is not the kind of place where you can waltz into a meeting with highest officials and go 'Ackckckchyually'. Kremlin cares nothing about rhetoric, and about people trying to look smart.)

As for the whole dichotomy, its funny how many hairs NS and USSR fanboys tear out of their heads, given that Hitler and Stalin respected each other, and Hitler flatly considered Stalin the world's greatest leader besides himself. Hitler in particular valued Stalin's pragmatism and his concise strategic reasoning devoid of all idealism.
 

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u mean faggots und fake (((nazis))) like this? they're not a part of our movement

on 1:19 u can see a true Aryan Warrior 😭

Я думал больше вот так


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Russian Political Scientist Andrei Piontkovsky, warns Putin is a Jewish Talmudist and is intertwined with Jewish doomsday sect Chabad Lubavitch, whose goal is to advance the coming of the Jewish Messiah:
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Crypto-Jew Putin is a zealous acolyte of Satan to bring in the antichrist, “whose coming is according to the working of Satan." (2 Thess. 2:9)

"Putin spoke about Chabad, as if he were an emissary."

“The Temple will be (re)built by Messiah himself.”https://www.chabad.org/library/arti...sh/Why-Havent-Jews-Rebuilt-the-Temple-Yet.htm
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"The Soviet army is a liberator, and therefore a benefactor of Europe,"
LOLOL
Yes thank goodness the Red Army raped and murdered its way to communist victory all by itself, otherwise can u imagine what horrible shape the West would be in today??

Every person who is proud of modern Europe absolutely owes a debt of gratitude to the Soviets as well as America, who fought so honorably to achieve communist victory in WW2.

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So you're an avid defender of the entire German invasion of Russia now ? Or is this just another tool you're using amidst the miriad of other threads about the same exact topic.

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-ea...s-in-ukraine-march-to-honor-nazi-ss-soldiers/
Why wouldn't someone defend the invasion of the Soviet Union by the Germans?

The Germans were trying to stop communism. Stopping Communism is a good thing last time I checked. Most of the Communists were Jews.
 

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The Soviet Army is a liberator? Really?

Go ask the 10,000 German women that were raped and or killed during the invasion. Go ask the people of Afghanistan if they felt liberated. LOL
 

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Saying that Russia faked the death of communism so it can lure america into being communist is stupid, the same (((people))) who have led america to be communist (as it is socially, given the dogmas and bans on race-mixing, no-fault divorce, abortion, homosexuality, transgenderism, and others have been overturned) led Russia to become the soviet union. Why are people so quick to believe some other country is the real threat or cause a of a global ideology being spread? It clearly has to do with powerful deceitful individuals manipulating people in high places and the masses they control. They want people to think that a particular country is the enemy so they can push their agendas through faux patriotism. This is why so many people think China is who is controlling the democrat party, as if it were evwr that simple.

The same soviet power structure exists in Russia and so do many of their old policies such as no-fault divorce and legalized abortion, but they use the orthodox church in order to control people better evern though the same people in the russian government today were likely in the officially atheist anti-christian soviet government yesterday. It's just a power structure full of individuals wanting power, serving more powerful individuals, not much has changed.

Stalin was less communist in his policies than the most conservative american states are today, because he re-banned no-fault divorce, abortion, and homosexuality.
Did he really ban abortion???
 

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Yes but to Russia, it was their people fighting, and it would be extremely damaging to morale and patriotism to shame the soldiers' memory by saying they were on the wrong side. Also, in many places the Nazis did terrible things to the population in Russia and eastern Europe, there was plenty of legitimate reasons to hate them and fight against them
Why wouldn't someone defend the invasion of the Soviet Union by the Germans?

The Germans were trying to stop communism. Stopping Communism is a good thing last time I checked. Most of the Communists were Jews.
 

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Good vs. evil depends which side you're on, or worse, stuck in the middle. Early in the movie Europa, Europa, Germany has just invaded Poland and refugees are fleeing eastward. Halfway across a river, a boat going the other way brings news that Russia has invaded from the east, "There's no more Poland!". The boat turns around, Poles preferring to take their chances with the Germans, while Jews jump out and swim toward the Russian side.
The Germans were trying to stop communism. Stopping Communism is a good thing last time I checked. Most of the Communists were Jews.
Hitler only stopped communism in Germany. Piłsudski had already crushed it in Poland, and Stalin had stopped (but not reversed) it in the Soviet Union. The system Hitler imposed on Eastern Europe was worse than communism -- German soldiers confiscated everything and left millions of people to starve.
 

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Ok, fuck Putin.

He's a jew tool.

The system Hitler imposed on Eastern Europe was worse than communism -- German soldiers confiscated everything and left millions of people to starve.
You sound like a NazBol punk ass bitch.

Letting people criticize Stalin or the war would probably lead to more self-criticism and nihilism amongst Russians.
So they are as self delusional as Americans. LOL

What a joke.

Fuck this ghey earth.

And letting people shit on WW2 veterans and the memories of Russians who lived through that nightmare now of all times won’t do Russia any good when they need to be ready for another round at a moments notice.
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Stalin was a literal piece of shit. Most Russians are complete boomers when it comes to WW2. Russians were the most sadistic assholes there were in WW2. That's not to say our own American Military's actions were not absolutely retarded themselves, they were... absolutely pathetic and evil.

Russians were the bad guys, and Germans should have been allowed to take control. The Russians were being systematically wiped out by their own Jewish government during the Bolshevik takeover and all the way through the beginning years of Communism to include WW2. There is zero justification for supporting Stalin, or Anti-white Communist Russia.

Russia needed to be invaded and liberated from Jewish control, period. But No, Russia got helped by our American Jewish controlled government. So both white Russians, Americans, and Germans lost WW2 to the Jews.
 
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Amen to Patton. My Grandfather served under his command at the Battle of the Bulge and had first hand correspondence with Patton. The man sought to dislodge the J-Tribe "burden" on the back of the European man. Stalin with Washington D.C. Jews killed Patton.
 

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Stalin was a literal piece of shit. Most Russians are complete boomers when it comes to WW2. Russians were the most sadistic assholes there were in WW2. That's not to say our own American Military's actions were not absolutely retarded themselves, they were... absolutely pathetic and evil.

Russians were the bad guys, and Germans should have been allowed to take control. The Russians were being systematically wiped out by their own Jewish government during the Bolshevik takeover and all the way through the beginning years of Communism to include WW2. There is zero justification for supporting Stalin, or Anti-white Communist Russia.

Russia needed to be invaded and liberated from Jewish control, period. But No, Russia got helped by our American Jewish controlled government. So both white Russians, Americans, and Germans lost WW2 to the Jews.
I'm sure that if we sent you back in time, you could make all the illiterate Russian peasants really sorry for not resisting when Red Army units came to their villages to conscript their sons. As we all know, Russian peasants were secretly very redpilled and based and they were able to see through the Soviet propaganda. They knew that the Germans were benevolent liberators who didn't stand to profit in any way from the conquest of the Soviet Union. Unfortunately, they were just too cowardly to do the right thing, but I'm sure that modern Übermensch neo-Nazis could haven given them the courage to lay down their arms, even if it meant execution or service in a penal battalion.
 
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