Poll: Most Trump Supporters Favor Secession

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Ever since the 2020 election hoax, I’ve said secession is the only option. I remember calling into the Ralph Retort on November 9 and saying “this is over, we need to just start pushing for secession right now.”

Of course, the whole “Stop the Steal” thing turned into a thing, and I wasn’t going to not support that kind of rallying and organization, but it was obvious that there was no possible way to overturn the election after the SCOTUS had sided with the scammers.

Do people even remember that? The whole thing hinged on the “conservative” Supreme Court telling Pennsylvania (and thus every other state) that they could take as long as they wanted to count the votes, which then allowed them to ship in new ballots. SCOTUS basically turned over the election to Joe Biden.

Go back and read what I wrote at the time that the court made that ruling – I said “there is no way out of this, Trump loses.” I was pushing secession before the election even happened, because I knew Trump couldn’t possibly win under covid election rules. The court gave Dems a blank check to commit fraud.

Now, the people are finally coming around.

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Many residents of Republican-controlled states who voted for Donald Trump in 2020 believe they would be “better off” if their state seceded from the US, a new poll has revealed.

About 33% of Trump voters in so-called red states say they’d personally fare better if their state “became an independent country,” according to a Yahoo/YouGov poll released on Friday. That compares with 29% who believe they’d be “worse off” after secession. The remaining 38% are either unsure or see themselves faring “about the same” in a newly independent state.


The margin was similar when Americans were asked how their state as a whole would fare after secession, with 35% of Trump voters speculating it would be better off, versus 30% saying that it would be worse off.

The poll is the latest illustration of increasing political polarization and cultural division in American life. Half of Americans believe there will be another US civil war in their lifetime and that the country will cease to be a democracy at some point, an earlier Yahoo/YouGov poll showed in June.
So, polling is always weird. But if more say “yes” than “no,” then “yes” wins. The third of people who are “unsure” would obviously go along with it if they don’t feel strongly enough to say “no.”

The question is obviously worded wrong anyway – we’re not talking about individual states becoming independent countries precisely, we’re talking about a confederacy of independent states. What we want is a referendum in all states, on the same day, for secession. Blue states too. Democrats have high levels of secession-support too, because they hate Republicans.

So the secession vote will basically be “we’re splitting the country in two, which side do you want to be on?”

If “democracy” was real, we’d be allowed to have that vote as a straight yay/nay referendum.

As the US Empire loses power on the world stage, this sort of thing is going to become possible.

We’ll have a big ports in Texas, probably Florida.



We won’t have access to the Pacific, but that is the shittiest ocean of all anyway.

The real way to do it would be county-by-county, but there is no real system to make that happen, and it would mean we wouldn’t have any urban areas at all, basically. But we would have access to the Pacific, via Oregon. Also, blue counties could be starved out, forced to pay exorbitant prices for food.



I mean, at this point, no one can seriously argue that left and right can ever get along. Either one side is going to have to violently inflict its will on the other side, or we have to separate.

Only path, to victory this is.



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The successor state, or the successor federation, must strive to leave the Jewish-run remnant state with the debts the Jews have run up. This should be a selling point: you get your freedom, they get to pay their own debts.
 

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What are you legally allowed to say about a potential civil war in the US? I remember when "no white guilt" debated some "propertarian" faglit and challenged him on his saying that civil war would be a good thing i.e. it would have a positive outcome. Somehow that went against US law, and the propertarians were drawing people into a fed trap.

One of the founders of propertarianism is Curt Doolittle, had lived in Kiev, Ukraine, which is interesting, given that the deep state were up to no good over there.

 

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Either one side is going to have to violently inflict its will on the other side, or we have to separate.
That is going to happen almost immediately after the separation. Their mission is to tikkun the olam, not just a part of it. They will attack. Splitting it up ahead of time will save lives, but it will not stop war, it will only delay the inevitable.
 

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I mean, at this point, no one can seriously argue that left and right can ever get along. Either one side is going to have to violently inflict its will on the other side, or we have to separate.
It's just going to come down to violence. Secession is preferable sure. But Trump winning twice in free and fair elections and doing at least 33-40% of what he campaigned on would have been ideal too. We all saw how that turned out. I don't believe based on the historical track record they will allow for free and fair referendums on the issue. So people are just going to get angrier and angrier, and the violence is going to become more extreme and regular, especially in urban settings. And there's nothing we can really do about it as individuals other than to just prepare ourselves and our families to our best ability for what's inevitably to come. It starts with, as you so often say, moving out of the cities.

But yeah, they're never going to let us peacefully separate, the same as they were never going to let the people vote our way out of this via the Trump ticket. They even did the voter fraud in 2016 if people remember. Trump wanted to hold a big investigation into it in 2017, but nothing was ever done because Jeff Sessions and the congressional GOP turned into limp faggots over the Russia hoax and let the jews, neocohens and democrats run roughshod over the entire Trump DOJ. Without question the 2018 midterms were also marred by mass voter fraud, particularly in suburban areas of coastal blue states, which gave them just enough seats to turn the house.

I don't know how or when the great violence that is to come will transpire. All I know is the social math adds up to a great reckoning on the horizon. I don't think anybody who isn't suffering from NPC mind rot believes that the jews and democrats are capable of fostering "healing and unity." They know they have to make that the slogan of the Biden entity, because they only know how to hurt and polarize Americans, and it's repulsive to every right thinking man.
 

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I don't know how or when the great violence that is to come will transpire. All I know is the social math adds up to a great reckoning on the horizon. I don't think anybody who isn't suffering from NPC mind rot believes that the jews and democrats are capable of fostering "healing and unity." They know they have to make that the slogan of the Biden entity, because they only know how to hurt and polarize Americans, and it's repulsive to every right thinking man.
On Azzmador's show he suggested that states rights may be an issue which provokes a show down with the feds. One example he gave was Greg Abbott declaring illegal crossing amounted to an invasion and calling for the national guard to start ejecting wetbacks. Biden's people can't have that. Some thing are going to crop up which are life and death issues for citizens in a state. Somewhere down the line, you could get politicians who are elected and then forced to take a side on such an issue. As the government weakens, say with a collapse of the dollar, some states may start ignoring federal mandates, and the feds may not have the power to enforce them.
 

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We need a place where the feds can't reach /ourguys/. A place to organize in relative safety. Either government-in-exile or a seceded territory.

But it's too pie in the sky at this point. Secession would involve the actual storming of at least a state capital building and we know how that turned out last time.
 

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Moloch is a powerful god. People who've incinerated, aborted, vaxed, or trannied their own children aren't going to break down and admit they did it for a false god. Ancient Molochites were eventually defeated by Israel in the east and Rome in the west, but they had to be utterly genocided.

Nigger-loving LGBT-tolerant Judeo-Christians don't have the stomach for genocide, so any victories they achieve over Moloch will be small and temporary.
 

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Moloch is a powerful god. People who've incinerated, aborted, vaxed, or trannied their own children aren't going to break down and admit they did it for a false god. Ancient Molochites were eventually defeated by Israel in the east and Rome in the west, but they had to be utterly genocided.

Nigger-loving LGBT-tolerant Judeo-Christians don't have the stomach for genocide, so any victories they achieve over Moloch will be small and temporary.
They're convinced they are righteous for taking it up the figurative ass. Really gives turn the other cheek a whole new meaning. If a man rapith your son, give him too your daughter.
 

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Really gives turn the other cheek a whole new meaning
It was only ever meant to apply to a Christian man to another Christian man. It was never meant that God wants us to "turn the other cheek" to jackals or other beasts. It's to remind of a Christian principle about the ideal for us to be patient and empathetic, situationally.

This weird shit about it meaning to ignore borders, non-whites, etc. is totally the result of jewsih infiltration and perversion of Christian churches and ideology via subversion.
 

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They're convinced they are righteous for taking it up the figurative ass. Really gives turn the other cheek a whole new meaning. If a man rapith your son, give him too your daughter.
A progressive Judeo-Christian has infinite cheeks. A real Christian has only two, and he who slaps twice is your enemy, to be treated as the Old Testament commands.
It was only ever meant to apply to a Christian man to another Christian man. It was never meant that God wants us to "turn the other cheek" to jackals or other beasts. It's to remind of a Christian principle about the ideal for us to be patient and empathetic, situationally.
The purpose of turning the other cheek is to determine if the other person should be treated as a fellow Christian (maybe he slapped you by mistake?), or if he is a follower of Satan.
 

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The framing of the story is suspect and once again we see politics being used to explain away the fundamental problem.

The desire to be out from under the yoke of the satanic jew junta transcends politics.

All real Americans desire secession - at minimum.
 

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Not sure how White Christians can be satisfied in a nation state that devalues them, critizes their "supremacy" and "evil colonial past." ANd a nation state that values anal sex, twerking, sportsball worshipping, rap "music"....
 

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Not sure how White Christians can be satisfied in a nation state that devalues them, critizes their "supremacy" and "evil colonial past." ANd a nation state that values anal sex, twerking, sportsball worshipping, rap "music"....
It's not satisfying to witness the exponentially-increasing Satanic forces being exerted, but it is foretold. Satan's grip will continue to tighten around his worldly domain until the Apocalypse and Jesus' return, when the Devil will finally be destroyed. Until then, buckle up!
 
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We’ll have a big ports in Texas, probably Florida.

We won’t have access to the Pacific, but that is the shittiest ocean of all anyway.
Oh yes we will.

Fun Fact: the Pacific Ocean is reachable via Idaho's Port of Lewiston

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But it's too pie in the sky at this point. Secession would involve the actual storming of at least a state capital building and we know how that turned out last time.
You're trapped in a Secession 1.0 mindset.

Secession 2.0 is going to look a lot more like the collapse of the Soviet Union than the War Between The States.
 

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The real way to do it would be county-by-county,
That's the most sensible option. Gather the like minded together in small enough areas that they feel sufficiently invested in the well being of their area and its people and so will take an active interest in self governance.

Western political heritage stems from Greek city states which were the basis of European civilisation thousands of years ago.

but there is no real system to make that happen,
The trauma that America will go through may well be as dystopian as Yugoslavia, or it might be as relatively benign as the break up of the USSR. Either way, pre existing systems aren't going to help very much since they've contributed to the political mess that America finds itself mired in.

and it would mean we wouldn’t have any urban areas at all, basically
No, but since those are the multicultural dens of iniquity normal people rail against why do you want urban areas? They're your markets, they're not your supporters.
 

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The trauma that America will go through may well be as dystopian as Yugoslavia, or it might be as relatively benign as the break up of the USSR. Either way, pre existing systems aren't going to help very much since they've contributed to the political mess that America finds itself mired in.
Jugoslavja FTW.


In extremis.
 

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We won’t have access to the Pacific, but that is the shittiest ocean of all anyway.
You will have access to the Pacific after you conquered California. I mean if red states are going to secede the blue ones won't tolerate that, they will even bully you more and even mobilize military, the Jews want to keep their realm together. Anyway they turned their subservients into soy faggots who are only brave on twitter.

It's going to be violent and bloody, it always went in human history, why should it be different this time?

Russia and China would for sure supply the red states with weapons.
 
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