Please Stop Using WhatsApp (And Everything Else That Isn’t Independently Audited)

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But they have other assorted domain names that may or may not be more to everyone's liking.

nuke.africa
hitler.rocks
nigge.rs
They do have domains which look like generic email providers.

Would you imagine trying to email your MP or customer services of a company with that email domain?
 

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How do we transfer over all the shit that was tied to our old email though? I have an email which is like 8 years old and I use it for everything normie-related. But I've also used it to log in to stuff like Nick Fuentes's website.

What the fuck I'm stuck in this box nigga help me
Huh... I mean. For your "SAFE FOR WORK" email, just manually change the email for every account associated with it.

Sucks to do, but it really should just be banking, insurance etc related. I have any "contact" emails for my family etc on a separate one, another for "gaming purposes" and so forth.

If you used an email to log into Nick's stuff, that's up to you. I don't think you're in any danger (immediate at least).

Another cool thing about tutanota, is that if you don't log into your free account for like 6 months, they delete it to save space. So for things you're not worried about losing info to, you can purposely let the account lapse and be deleted.
 

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I mean, obviously. But there has to be a "least worst" alternative to Gmail, Yahoo mail, etc. Is it your contention that they are all exactly the same?
I think that, if you don't want to bother with GnuPG, at least your email provider should not be incorporated in the US, and must have no servers in the US.
 

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hey fam. 1) telegram is open-source 2) telegram is encrypted. the super-safe, decentralized mode that deletes everything when you're done and makes your messages unforwardable or copyable etc has to be activated

signal is total crap. total. crap. the ceo is a kike pantifag matthew rosenfeld. the co-owners are what? the creators of whatsapp that lied to us: "Always private, always free." the same. people.

telegram is okay for now because the ceo is russian non-kike. it's open source. it's encrypted and decentralized (if you activate it) all in one program. it has an already huge user base.

look parler was dumped and the kike that runs that stole all your phone numbers that he has on a list. so it matters a hell of an effing lot if the ceo is a freaking baby dick sucker.

that said telegram is still proprietary and still has a central server. its days are numbered but i don't know for how long. i imagine we'll have to keep changing as this storm continues.
 

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What makes Protonmail good?

And thanks for the advice.
I was looking for another email service that's not affiliated with google. I remember asking this question a while back and Weev responded with Protonmail.

They do not have access to your user data, and your messages are encrypted. There are more perks if you pay for the services.
 

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Furthermore, Telegram is NOT open source
Also, I'd like to point out that this information is not correct. Telegram is open-source, and they even offer a way to verify that your device runs the same code as they publish: https://core.telegram.org/reproducible-builds

The server source code is not open. But if it was, it will be useless, as you won't be able to verify that the server actually runs this code.
 

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Check out the Qubes operating system. You run programs in separate virtual spaces. You decide which resources given virtual spaces see, so you can run a program in a virtual machine which does not have access to the microphone, or the ethernet, or whatever.

It has tor/whonix built in.

How do we transfer over all the shit that was tied to our old email though? I have an email which is like 8 years old and I use it for everything normie-related. But I've also used it to log in to stuff like Nick Fuentes's website.
Install thunderbird mail reader. You can set it up to download all your mail and then delete them from the server.
 

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I don't think the fact that something is made by Jews necessarily means it's bad.

I once was drunk and bought a $12 bar of Jewish soap (dead sea something something) to make some girl laugh (I kept asking the staff "is this made of real Jews?" and because of their low levels of English, they kept saying "yes sir, yes, Jews" - and yes, this bold and hilarious stunt did result in vaginal access being granted, and $12 was cheaper than a hooker in the [x Central European country]). Anyway, it was the best soap I ever used in my life.

Also, Jurassic Park was really great. And EVERY Steely Dan album.

Anyway, the point is: Signal is open source. So you basically would have to be accusing the entire global internet security community of conspiring with this Jew. It's not a viable conspiracy theory. He did it to make money, just like the Jews who sold me this amazing $12 bar of soap made of salt they stole from Arabs.
 

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Also, I'd like to point out that this information is not correct. Telegram is open-source, and they even offer a way to verify that your device runs the same code as they publish: https://core.telegram.org/reproducible-builds

The server source code is not open. But if it was, it will be useless, as you won't be able to verify that the server actually runs this code.
This is bullshit. They don't publish builds immediately, meaning you have no idea what you're running. Plus, running proprietary servers could be audited by an independent foundation as many projects that require central servers do.


Telegram does not meet any accepted definition of "open source software." It is proprietary, closed source software that randomly publishes APIs that they don't even claim are up to date.

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Best vpn to use? We need qanon in here
 

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Don't use that. About a year or so ago cock.li was down for several weeks because law enforcement seized his servers.
Cock.li has not had a successful demand for user information since 2017, thanks in large part to better education of law enforcement that contact cock.li. However, it is our intention to operate cock.li as transparent as possible. To accomplish this Cock.li publishes communication with law enforcement including or regarding a successful demand or order for user information. All of this information is published on the transparency page.
Bummer.
 

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Lots of contradictions in this thread. I don't know what's truly good or bad to use.

So I decided - ProtonMail is probably better than using Gmail. And Signal is probably better than WhatsApp. So I'll start there and if I have to change services again in the future, I will.

But for right now, the mission is to get off of Silicon Valley's tit.

Another big thing is to get off Android phones. Thinking about getting a Moto G and putting GrapheneOS on it.
 

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People need to realize that the main draw of Telegram is it's social media features. The channels (which are public for anyone, even those without the telegram app) function similarly to a hybrid between the Twitter timeline and Discord. These public channels get shut down because people post obscene gore or fedpost and people think Telegram is "unsafe" and unsecure because of it. You channel will get shut down if you fedpost or do other stupid shit, these companies are legally required to do that if they don't want to get shut down themselves. If you don't want your channel to get mass reported and shut down then make it private and only send trustworthy people your invite code.

People also say that Telegram isn't "encrypted". Not true. Normal chats either via 1on1 or in a group are encrypted on their servers, but this also means they have the key and can view them if they want to, or be forced to do so by law enforcement. But again, Telegram should be mainly thought of as a social media platform first and foremost. However, if you enable "start a secret chat" before you talk to someone that uses End to End Encryption and NO ONE, not even Telegram would be able to view your conversation. This essentially makes it equivalent to Signal with better features and a lot more friendly to normies. The reason they use server to client encryption for normal chats and group chats are because it enables people to view their communications on multiple devices and be transfered over if they get a new phone. Normies like this, and it's simply a business move by Telegram to attract more users.

The only thing I don't like about Telegram is the ability to export the entire history of posts on channels and group chats. Just keep aware that if you are in a public group chat or channel anyone can export all the data including posts and media at any time if they want to.

I'm not saying Telegram is "bullet-proof". Like with all encrypted apps, unless you personally know the inner-workings or audit the code yourself, you are putting all your trust and data in the hands of a company and hoping they don't do anything with it. Just be careful and use your brain, there are challenging times ahead of us.
 
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All webmail options go from horrible to kind of shitty. You're better off running your own, though if what you're looking for is to completely anonymize yourself, I wouldn't recommend hosting your own either. If you're just looking for an address to do normal people things on and don't feel comfortable with anyone else potentially being able to go through your stuff, I'd recommend learning how to host your own mail.
 

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Running your own webmail is a waste of time. Yeah, you are in in control if you got your mail server, but then again, if you are planning to do sth that government doesn't like (which as we can see, does not even have to be illegal at all, because law is being interpreted on the go by fucking Jews), then storing your messages on a server that can be linked to your real life identity is not much of a strategy. Use some mailbox for your normie-web that you think is really secure, and use it to communicate clean-as-a-whistle stuff like work, cooking recepies, and your norme-life bookings. You still don't want to use Google and other spyware even for your normie web, because it will collect data about you that can be used to identify you on your kek-web.

The orthodox privacy move is separating identities. You log onto this only on tor, and you don't put out any identifiers, and you use burner mail.

A great problem is forgetfulness. Everyone has to start to understand the basic-bitch piece of opsec info: the list is real. A list is the basic tool of state security services, and has been since the invention of writing and policing. When you put a piece of personal data here, it goes onto a list, like for instance 'there's only one McDonald's in a place I live.' That is a piece of information that can be used to identify you. And computers are there to cross-check different pieces of registers, and modern processors, even commercial ones can do that in a split-second.

Because everyone is forgetful to a degree, over a long enough time-span, you will put a lot of information like that which is enough to zero you in: married or unmarried, whether you are in your 20s or 30s, whether you live in a specific state or in northwest, how many children do you have, which phone you use, etc etc... There is a list which contains all of this stuff - who owns which phone, the list of all people who have 3 children, etc. You forget that you said these things, so don't be smart.

In order to combat this powerful force, you need rules, and the rule should be simple to remember: no personal info. If you want to stay anonymous (as opposed to simply not caring about it), it's really dumb if you say 'i've been to prison for 3 years'.

Another thing to keep in mind, which I don't think belong to paranoia anymore, is behavioral analysis, which is done by AI. I'm pretty sure that software can identify your writing style and do cross-comparison, and identify your browsing habits. Now, you probably need to be sought-after enough for somebody to do that, but it is perfectly possible. When you use tor, don't do multi-tabbing. Open this site in just one tab and stay on it. You can click on links here, but don't open a bunch of websites you usually read in the pattern that you are used to on your normie-web. As for writing style, I have no advice about that really, I can't really wrap my head around it, and I don't know how this place would work if everybody was using deliberately idiosyncratic writing style to separate their identity from real-life.

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You only get to make one mistake with anonymity.

If you open this website from a google or apple phone, they know who you are (if they care). Anonymity and cryptographic protection is as good as the ends are, and Google phone is a terrible end.
 
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just like the Jews who sold me this amazing $12 bar of soap made of salt they stole from Arabs.
Wait a minute... this soap isn't made of quality jews! You lied to me! I found like five Palestinian foreskins in this!

Just because they're the real owners of the land (and arguably the descendants of the actual biblical hebrews) doesn't mean you can pass them off as jews.
 
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