On the Benefits of Dating an Older, Educated Woman

AmericanHero

America First
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One of the major benefits to me of a young wife is the cross-generational effect it has on your children. Your daughters are less likely to end up spinsters and your sons less likely to end up beta chasing old hags. It sets a precedent culturally, possibly on a genetic level as far as we know, and you get to have great-grand kids instead of this "I hope kids get to have a grandparent before they all die of obesity at 65" most families are at risk of. It also creates a natural power dynamic within the family, which might have some volatility, but age-gaps do decrease the gender blurring androgyny established by modern society.
 

AmericanHero

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Despite the popular opinion here, there are plenty of guys interested - well off, seemingly normal, and good looking ones too (of course it helps that I still have my looks and am not a vapid whore). But I can't help but to lose respect for them because of this: You're seriously interested in a 30 something single mom? What are you, a cuck or just desperate? So yeah, I truly am fucked.
In my experience having actually helped women in your situation find husbands, divorcees with full custody and/or widowers, are not necessarily complete cucks to find you desirable. They are less likely to be super woke on gender relations but like, most normal people aren't hardcore MGTOW folks and go along to get along. A woman in her 30s can be desirable if you have a preexisting family for stability and not creating essentially a "new" family and cucking your pre-existing sons with competition in loyalties to new children. My advice to these women which seemed to work was to get in shape, dress modestly, and for a few work on being as amiable and pleasant as possible.

There is your white-knight post out of me, now stop whining for attention in our woman bashing threads
 

JR_Rustler_III

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we have a situation in this society where women are effectively puppeteering the entire society.
Men have been charged by God to manage three different kinds of domesticable creatures: women, children, and animals. Of the three, women are by far the most dangerous.

Not "I know a few couple" - tell them to describe the relationship specifically, and how long they've been together.
I'm going to break it down as 2-48-48-2.

* 2% of all marriages work out great for everybody concerned.
* 48% involve significant compromise and dissatisfaction on everybody's part, but result in some form of permanent accommodation
* 48% become miserable after the first few years. In modern times they result in divorce. In pre-modern times, they resulted in meaningful suffering unto death.
* 2% are disastrous and result in some sort of horrible crime or perversion (murder, child abuse, etc)

Truth be told I think it is one of the worst and most pervasive paradigms going around right now. I literally can't spend more than 10 minutes with one beyond sex without getting bored to tears
The idea that your wife is your "best friend" is about the stupidest thing going. The kind of idiots who promote that generally also promote the idea of being "best friends" with your kids, which will have similarly disastrous consequences.
 

JR_Rustler_III

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But I can't help but to lose respect for them because of this: You're seriously interested in a 30 something single mom? What are you, a cuck or just desperate? So yeah, I truly am fucked.
Your take is 100% correct. But, don't despair. You have your kids. Whenever you get depressed, consider the alternative path you could have taken: A miserable Cool Wine Aunt with a couple of cats and a soul-crushing corporate job that you have to go to until you eventually drink yourself to death.
 

Staufer

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Despite the popular opinion here, there are plenty of guys interested - well off, seemingly normal, and good looking ones too
Not a surprise. Almost everyday I see men in good physical shape holding hands with a woman who weighs probably the same as a tall and fit guy.
A lot of men are completely insecure and just crave a wife, so they will take the next best they can get.
Of course, I'm cringeing and shaking my head when I see this, but who am I to really judge?
Sure, we can talk about women hitting the wall earlier than men, etc, but that's actually just cope posting. In reality a single man in his 30s is mostly in the same panic mode as a women. At least that's my observation. Sure it happens more often with women, but many men also realize at some point that they've been waisting their lives so far and so they just accept a woman much under their standards.

I don't say that you're fat and ugly, but it really doesn't surprise me much. If you're in your thirties and not fat there will be still a lot of men who will marry you asap. That's the reality we're living in. Of course, this is a fucked situation, because it affects the entirety of society, but we can't do much about it. The majority of normal men simply wants a woman and at some point they will just take what they can get.

Yeah, it's easy to be woke on the women question or whatever online, but, yeah, if I have to be honest I would probably go back to my ex if she would call me right now, even though she's a dumb front hole and breaking up with her was a smart move... I still love her... kinda, at least.
 

Mr.Redd

"Permanent struggle is the law of life"
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48% become miserable after the first few years.
The problem with White birthrates isn't that people need to get married at 14 it's that people who do get married and have kids take so fricken long to do it. For example a normal couple goes through these phases:
  • Date (1-2 years)
  • Live together (2 years)
  • Freak out about marriage commitment financial and otherwise (varies)
  • Get engaged (1 year)
  • Have a big ass expensive "perfect" wedding (1 day but takes forever to pay off)
  • Start respective careers/finish school (2-5 years)
  • Save money to buy a house (2-10 years)
White people need to just fricken get on with their lives! The average time from meeting to having kids should be 2-3 years not 10+, parents should help pay for a house. Now on top of all this we are going to add a virgin marriage requirement and mandatory lifelong commitment? Virgin marriage is a respected ideal, but it shouldn't be the mandatory, neither should mandatory lifelong commitment if things don't work out. If they don't work out get a divorce, staying together is best but the kids will deal with it, some people are just not compatible. This is more accurate to how things were actually done in ancient times in the most successful societies. Most men served in the military and wanted to get married before they left for war if they died the women were remarried as non-virgins.
 

Staufer

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  • Date (1-2 years)
  • Live together (2 years)
  • Freak out about marriage commitment financial and otherwise (varies)
  • Get engaged (1 year)
  • Have a big ass expensive "perfect" wedding (1 day but takes forever to pay off)
  • Start respective careers/finish school (2-5 years)
  • Save money to buy a house (2-10 years)
Most relationships don't even survive the second and third phase, imho.
 

Mr.Redd

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Most relationships don't even survive the second and third phase, imho.
Probably, but I know several White couples that have been together and married years and still don't have any kids. One couple I know has been together since 16 and managed to have ONE kid at 30 and they still don't even own a house!

IDK, this was just on my mind today and how I plan to do it. It would help if this damn recession would end to get a better job sooner though! But I really should ignore that too!
 

Staufer

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One couple I know has been together since 16 and managed to have ONE kid at 30 and they still don't even own a house!
Well, owning a house has become impossible for many people at that age. But, I agree, I know couples like that too. My cousin literally married his childhood gf. They've been a couple since they were 15. And now, 25 years later, they have two kids and live in a super expensive flat in the big city.
 

Mr.Redd

"Permanent struggle is the law of life"
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owning a house has become impossible for many people at that age
Yeah, I think part of it is money part is fear though. People put off getting married for fear of a bad marriage and they put off having kids for fear of an extra responsibility. They just make up the other excuses. I guess this virus is changing my outlook on things, even though I know it's fake/exaggerated it fells like I'm risking my life just leaving the damn house! I'm too old (34) and haven't accomplished enough for another damn recession again!
 

Italo-Canadian

Jesus is King
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That was the story of my life since I was 17 years old: cooking, cleaning, child raising, and keeping my husband happy. And it didn't ever prevent him from straying. And I don't even mean a drunken night here and there, I'm talking several dozen real affairs in addition to hundreds of drunken ONS.
If you or any woman was capable of self-reflection, you would realize that you were attracted to him because he mistreated you, not in spite of it. Think about all the nice guys you could have married, but instead you went with a total asshole.
 
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Staufer

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I'm too old (34) and haven't accomplished enough for another damn recession again!
28 here and I feel the same. The panic abut the actual virus is as fake as it can get, but the consequences of that lockdown garbage will be outrageous. Spent the last weeks reading stuff like "How to survive being homeless" and other things like that on the internet. I'm not directly threatened by becoming homeless right now, but you never know. We will see where this is going to end...
 

phoenixrising

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Despite the popular opinion here, there are plenty of guys interested - well off, seemingly normal, and good looking ones too (of course it helps that I still have my looks and am not a vapid whore). But I can't help but to lose respect for them because of this: You're seriously interested in a 30 something single mom? What are you, a cuck or just desperate? So yeah, I truly am fucked.
If it's a guy with kids of his own, well, not such a big deal. We all get to a certain age where finding a husband or wife without baggage (though that's not really the meaning I'm trying to convey) is nigh on impossible. IDK I'm in a similar situation to you though I'm older. I'm not sure what the answer is for either of us tbh. Just try to be the best person you can possibly be and hope for the best I suppose. Good luck.
 

jerkosovic

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I don't even mean a drunken night here and there, I'm talking several dozen real affairs in addition to hundreds of drunken ONS.
That's no good.

It's easy to forget there are reasons we got into this feminist mess. There are some differences:

- Men didn't aggressively celebrate infidelity. Yes, you will find rakes chumming it up just as you'll find whores and sluts chumming it up, but main-stream male culture was always about duty. In demanding "equality," women demanded to emulate the worst of men not the best. They want to ride the carousel, waste their lives at work, and ignore their children. Men did this, but it was never part of being a good man.
- Before no-fault divorce, infidelity was the reason for an at-fault divorce, and not only would it be allowed but your ex-husband would probably have been punished financially for it, while now it's just 50/50 no matter what. I guess it varies a lot per state or per judge, but that's my impression, at least. There was social force behind the idea your husband was not being a proper man, while there's so little social force today behind the idea that women should be expected to contribute anything at all to society besides hedonistic consumer demand and competition for pointless jobs. Instead divorce is a way of swapping out the man when their life is not going the way they want. It should not be an option so the initial choice of man takes on the weight that it should, and the world is not "flooded with dangerous monkeys."

so I think we're worse off. It's not just a "failures all around" thing. But I wish we could somehow retain the parts of male good character related to being a good husband while reacting to the reality that women have become useless, entitled, and degenerate creatures who hold each other to no standards whatsoever.

You're seriously interested in a 30 something single mom? What are you, a cuck or just desperate?
While it might make sense it undermines men's ability to inspire good character in one another for women to have such a red-pilled market-based view of dating. If this is going to get better we will have to get better together. One side cannot hold it up alone. So long as women react with disgust to people loving them, they will not be loved, and they deserve to be slapped and cheated on because they are literally choosing mates on that basis. Maybe he is expecting something of the 30-year-old mom that she cannot comprehend because of the collapse of modern female character. I definitely size people up for, "would this woman run the family well as a grandma." I doubt it will ever enter into a woman's chaotic decision-spiral that a man might be doing that. She will just assume the worst, and that makes it true.

I will lose a lot of status here but honestly I know lots of hot thirty year old women, and at that age she can have more children. It's not a "geriatric pregnancy" until 35 or so. Also if she has not been chasing orgasms for all that time she was married that's a plus, too. Obviously we need to make compromises. If there's some way to aim a little higher than "that girl I've been fucking" that's probably worth it.

I wouldn't go past 33 though.

And the whole situation is not great for a kid. It's too bad his dad's a cheater, but it's not great. Stepfathers can suppress what they feel and do their duty, but a kid should have more than that. It's a social failure when we can't keep families together. I'm not so into getting distracted with punishing the woman unless it's improving on the social failure by teaching them to choose better men to have children with. If the message can only be delivered when they're 30 that won't work.
 
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hiking

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LOL you scallywag. I had a counter argument ready before clicking the link.

Older women = no kids = extinction of your bloodline.
 

nukeisreal

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I wouldn't go past 33 though.

And the whole situation is not great for a kid. It's too bad his dad's a cheater, but it's not great. Stepfathers can suppress what they feel and do their duty, but a kid should have more than that. It's a social failure when we can't keep families together. I'm not so into getting distracted with punishing the woman unless it's improving on the social failure by teaching them to choose better men to have children with. If the message can only be delivered when they're 30 that won't work.
That single mothers and bastard children should be left to die is obvious, like euthanizing deformed babies, or leaving them to die. Tough shit, but the consequences of not doing so are even more grave.

If you have a society where some retards can abandon their children and have them survive because an even bigger retard is retarded enough to literally cuck himself by supporting the former retard's retarded offspring, and the mother is retarded too for having lousy judgment in picking men.

TL;DR you get a whole lot of retardation going on in society.
 

YourMom

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All I wanted at age 20 was to get married and have babbies, which I did, and have two responsible grown young gamers of good character. But boy was I a handful for my poor older husband. He was very good to me and I was so emotionally immature and fucked up from a lifetime of abuse, I simply couldn't be the wife he deserved. We've been divorced 15 years, I gave him everything including our sons, and I will never subject another man to a relationship with me. It's lonely but morally correct.
 

Italo-Canadian

Jesus is King
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Obviously we need to make compromises.
What does the Apostle Paul have to say here?

To the married, however, I give this instruction (not I, but the Lord): A wife should not separate from her husband β€”and if she does separate she must either remain single or become reconciled to her husbandβ€”and a husband should not divorce his wife.
- 1 Corinthians 7:10-11
 

Andrew Anglin

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Didn't say that there's a way to guarantee 100% success, but that it's not difficult to have better chances than Brad Pitt and Depp, because they're brainwashed fags, and it's tiresome to see them as examples of how even the top men get screwed over. They're not really top men, just proof of how fake our current hierarchies are.

It's like if a retarded child was allowed to win a MMA competition, and it then gets beaten by a woman, and you say "see, even the top MMA fighters get beaten by women".
I meant to list off more "alpha" famous men who got fucked over by women, but you're post is so tedious and retarded I didn't bother.

Everyone already knows a list of men, and your opinions on Pitt and Depp aren't even tangentially related to this discussion.
 
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