On the Benefits of Dating an Older, Educated Woman

Mr.Redd

"Permanent struggle is the law of life"
Old World Underground
Beyond the bible, the whole point of marriage to early masculine non-faggot warrior cultures was so that when you leave for war nobody else screws your wife.

People would get married young and hopefully get the women pregnant and then the man would leave and go off fighting and raping for some extended period of 4-8 years only writing letters and then if he didn't die he would come back to his wife. If he did die the women would just raise any kids with her mother, remarry or become the mistress of an older respectable man who would then pay her to have more of his kids.

The problem with modern society is that we are divorced from this reality of what was our nature for millennia. There isn't any way to fix it really either by lifelong monogamy or casual relationships, it just is what it is and you have to deal with it and do the best you can...
 

RedPillStormer

Blaze it
Old World Underground
Beyond the bible, the whole point of marriage to early masculine non-faggot warrior cultures was so that when you leave for war nobody else screws your wife.

People would get married young and hopefully get the women pregnant and then the man would leave and go off fighting and raping for some extended period of 4-8 years only writing letters and then if he didn't die he would come back to his wife. If he did die the women would just raise any kids with her mother, remarry or become the mistress of an older respectable man who would then pay her to have more of his kids.
Very very good point.

People divorced this reality, partially it was necessary, as war can't rage non-stop.

But that's true. In the Roman Empire, soldiers could spend years on campaigns. The interesting point about it was that men were not expected to be 100% sexually loyal (although strongly respected if they did) as it was understood that a man that spends 5 years in some campaign in Egypt would get horny and want some release.

The point of marriage was ownership "this bitch is mine, no one else touch it". That was it, it was like a dog pissing to mark it's territory, albeit more decorated with rituals and mythological explanations.

Marriage historically meant a man monopolizing a woman sexually, not even necessarily promising her he will be 100% sexually loyal (although it was always encouraged). As soon as you divorce marriage from the ownership paradigm into the "love" paradigm, you get issues, because then you can argue couples should divorce when love disappears and gays can claim "we love each other too".

Some propose the "child rearing" thing as central, which while true, still causes debates "but if he is a bad father".

If marriage is defined as "this woman can sleep with no one else but me, if she does she will get killed" then literally all modern debates would disappear, it would be much more clear. Once marriage is defined as a man owning a woman, literally everything becomes clear.

As for there being no modern solution, there is. And that solution is stop playing the "husband - wife" game and start playing the "master-property" game. All of our problems with modern marriage started when the words husband and owner stopped being synonymous, and husband became synonymous with "partner".

90% of modern issues would stop if women were treated like property and either sold at slave markets or sold into marriage by fathers, like they did in the Middle Ages.

Once women stopped being property, plenty of problems started. Fix that, and most problems disappear.

If one makes female cheating punishable by death, women being strictly a form of property, divorce being either illegal or only legal if initiated by men (although that can causes "replace with new model" issues) and 90% of modern social issues would disappear.

I have my own version of a solution. Re-define women as pets (with reproductive functions on top). You can't treat your pets like crap, that's animal cruelty. But you are legally allowed to train pets and just treat them like ... pets. If this isn't a solution to 90% of issues I don't know what is.
 

AbsurdinessBrown

Mayor of Karlsville, Anime Nazi 2nd Class.
Old World Underground
were King, those 2 jews would be allowed to continue to make movies. Under supervision, of course.
That's a terrible idea.

The ones that don't get deported or turned into lampshades need to be involved in producing endless telemovies revealing jewish evil and its effect on the world.

Maybe a slapstick comedy can be fit in there somehow, but only if it doesn't trigger sympathy for the kikes.
 
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AbsurdinessBrown

Mayor of Karlsville, Anime Nazi 2nd Class.
Old World Underground
So long as women react with disgust to people loving them, they will not be loved, and they deserve to be slapped and cheated on because they are literally choosing mates on that basis.
Lot of nuance in all of what you wrote.

They deserve more than beatings, etc though. They deserve to be lifelong objects of pity, encouraging all women around them to make the right choice and keep it.

They do not deserve second chances, as that undermines any possible message others could learn. Women absolutely love the second chances line, it justifies everything they do.

They should be treated like coal burners.

People should point and say "She married a cad because he gave her the tingles, even though he was obviously an asshole. Nice guys just didn't do it for her, though. She's got what she wanted, a cad."
 

Mr.Redd

"Permanent struggle is the law of life"
Old World Underground
Re-define women as pets
True except that wouldn’t solve the ratio issue. Every man would have one pet essentially. A better option maybe would be to grow real women in a lab to be concubines 😁. You could even select for the characteristics you wanted. Of course they would probably call this a human rights violation or something... That could fix the ratio without men resorting to plastic doll things other guys post about on here.
 

RedPillStormer

Blaze it
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True except that wouldn’t solve the ratio issue. Every man would have one pet essentially. A better option maybe would be to grow real women in a lab to be concubines 😁. You could even select for the characteristics you wanted. Of course they would probably call this a human rights violation or something... That could fix the ratio without men resorting to plastic doll things other guys post about on here.
Well, historically, 5% of women were turned into prostitutes, so that solved the issue.

But in the future people will have genetically engineered zebra maids so there's that

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And we have sex robots until then.
 

nukeisreal

AltReich
Old World Underground
I meant to list off more "alpha" famous men who got fucked over by women, but you're post is so tedious and retarded I didn't bother.

Everyone already knows a list of men, and your opinions on Pitt and Depp aren't even tangentially related to this discussion.
Suuuure brah, ahahah. Maybe if I hadn't seen you respond at length to the droolest of retards these last couple of days, basically repeating the points you already made in previous articles, I would buy into that.

The only part of my post which isn't immediately obvious and can be argued is that wealth and status are separate from masculinity and not the primary determinants of it, but in red-pill circles that's a pretty common idea. There are wealthy "men" with status who get pegged, adopt nigger-children, and do all sorts of humiliating, unmasculine things. Not to mention Jews are the wealthiest ethnic group and that currently women often have more wealth and status than men, and these women tend not to have masculine traits. So even then you'd have to defend some weird shit.

Maybe my post is tedious, I don't know, I'm not a good writer so that's possible. But it's the truth. And a pretty relevant one.
 

Mr.Redd

"Permanent struggle is the law of life"
Old World Underground
A wife should not separate from her husband —and if she does separate she must either remain single or become reconciled to her husband—and a husband should not divorce his wife.
Yeah, I guess, I'm not an atheist. I support Christianity that's positive for White people.
 

gamagoat6x6

Kebab Removalist
Old World Underground
All of our problems with modern marriage started when the words husband and owner stopped being synonymous, and husband became synonymous with "partner".
That's a feature of kosherized Christianity that really decayed with the advent of mass media in the '50s.

The idea of monogamy / marriage extends beyond the ownership of women while the man is off fighting wars, although that certainly was the genesis of the custom. And while it's true that scorn / punishment was greater for the female's infidelities - there's obvious practical reasons for that - as you pointed out, there was still an expectation and esteem of the faithful man, an ideal proposed by Christianity.

Monogamy not only establishes the sexual privelage of teh man with his wife, but also strengthens familial bonds and consequently civilzation. Without it, we're no better than the filthy mozlems.
 

Mr.Redd

"Permanent struggle is the law of life"
Old World Underground
Monogamy not only establishes the sexual privelage of teh man with his wife, but also strengthens familial bonds and consequently civilzation. Without it, we're no better than the filthy mozlems.
True but the main reason for any man to become a conqueror to begin with is to take out the other guy and take his lands, his treasure and primarily, his women. The type of man who wants more in life becomes a conqueror. If every tribe just stayed on their own lands with their own women there would be no reason for conquering. We're going to have a difficult time having a successful movement if its culture ignores the biological reasons why men do things.

I do agree that Christianity creates strong family units and that is one of the benefits of it though.
 

gamagoat6x6

Kebab Removalist
Old World Underground
The type of man who wants more in life becomes a conqueror. If every tribe just stayed on their own lands with their own women there would be no reason for conquering
True, but you can still have civilization and reasoning to express that desire for conquest: white cultures have been working at it for quite a while and would have been pretty far along if it wasn't for the ethnic meddlers.
 

Mundus

𝖆𝖑𝖆𝖇𝖆𝖘𝖙𝖊𝖗
Old World Underground
Despite the popular opinion here, there are plenty of guys interested - well off, seemingly normal, and good looking ones too (of course it helps that I still have my looks and am not a vapid whore). But I can't help but to lose respect for them because of this: You're seriously interested in a 30 something single mom? What are you, a cuck or just desperate? So yeah, I truly am fucked.
Life isn't fair. In a way you've already won as you've managed to have healthy kids. Given the way things are going, most millennial women aren't going to be able to have children and if they do it's going to be a single IVF down-syndrome kid with a man they couldn't keep or a sperm donor. Others will have a single half-black child that they end up being totally ashamed of eventually; a lot of single mother mudsharks end up killing their half-breed kids out of a mixture of desire to be free of all responsibility and crushing despair. Things are rough out there.

Millennial women as a group have created a slice of hell for themselves and everyone else and hopefully younger women learn from this generational mistake. I personally know a woman in her early thirties who (against medical advice) took SSRI's while pregnant and her baby was born hideously deformed. That child has no future.
 
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Rauta

Active member
Old World Underground
Seems to be the case when I've been on dates. They have nothing really to say about anything, especially the world. On top of this their hobbies rarely cross over with mine. They only know netflix, school, and if they play games - it's some kiddy/women game.

I mean I guess you can't really expect more from them. It would be nice to find the rare woman with critical thinking ability or an intelligent woman (so they know what you're talking about instead of just nodding in agreeance), even if people here seem to advocate against it.
Settle for one that can cook and provides you with sex...
 
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