I am becoming a blacksmith

Al_Bundy

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Neat video on how to make a sword out of steel bars ordered online



 

Jebal_Dokundy

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That's horrible, he does every mistake there is that youngster.
And lobbed pommels were made not from one piece, but sandwiched and riveted from pretty lot of parts....
Also he has wrongest anvil for blade making, best option would be entirely without holes, very stocky, squarish one, like cube of sort.
 

Al_Bundy

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That's horrible, he does every mistake there is that youngster.
And lobbed pommels were made not from one piece, but sandwiched and riveted from pretty lot of parts....
Are you referring to the video I just posted? If so, I can't disagree with you at all. I have no experience in this, but I posted it because I saw how relatively easy it was for him to forge out of a solid, long block of steel. That made it real easy to do. And knocking out one or two like that as a beginner would help encourage @xXxAnglicanxXx to keep at it as a newbie, because he could see his progression at a quicker rate. Then he would start anew with a mold of steel and forge it the traditional way.

I agree with what you posted above.
 

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Are you referring to the video I just posted? If so, I can't disagree with you at all. I have no experience in this, but I posted it because I saw how relatively easy it was for him to forge out of a solid, long block of steel. That made it real easy to do. And knocking out one or two like that as a beginner would help encourage @xXxAnglicanxXx to keep at it as a newbie, because he could see his progression at a quicker rate. Then he would start anew with a mold of steel and forge it the traditional way.

I agree with what you posted above.
Yep I did, site behaves sometimes funny.

The way he does tang is just wrong, note that he tries to taper pretty broad part of hard steel and he has big, squary outer corners on it. That's wrong. If he would cut those corners in 45 degree angle, for example using angle grinder, tapering would go faster and he would easily avoid most probable overlaps on the point of that tang, where pommel will be. That's very important part.
 

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I've managed to heat up some iron and hammer it out, but atm I need to figure out a better way of heating up the metal so it doesn't take so long. The crank blower I got sucks ass.
OK, so, yes you could build some kind of fire and stick a hair dryer in it, like videodude says. Not very practical. You want a set-up that you can just get home from work and easily switch on, no hassle, so you can just be smithing all the time without having to have heroic amounts of High Energy every time.
Astral-Pepe posted a diagram that looks good.

Here’s what I would recommend. Well, maybe two possibilities. First, you could build this:


...using this

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Buy it from the Gingery Book Store

You basically take a five gallon bucket (take the time to find a metal one, not plastic because it will eventually gradually melt.) and build some walls and a lid for it out of some stuff you buy at a fireplace store. So simple! I’ve built two of them.

It’s made for being a foundry, as part of the β€œBuild your own machine shop from scratch” series, but would work as a forge, too. Certainly better than the two foot pipe and hair dryer!

Downside to this is it uses charcoal. So you have to light the fire each time.

So, my next recommendation is the best option. There is a standard atop-the-propane-tank mini forge that I’ve encountered, like at a Makerspace. Let’s see if I can find it online....


OK, here’s some photos showing what one looks like:


So you have a small portable table, maybe on casters(wheels), or build one. Stick a pipe of some sort on the top horizontally as shown. It could be an air tank with the ends cut off, it could be a coffee can, whatever. Then you stick the propane tank under the table.

Portable, practical, proven, easy.
 

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Can I have advice? Is there anything you can tell me to give me a head start? Maybe things to avoid doing? I want to make knives and spearheads at first to get a feel for smithing. Then I want to experiment with more advanced techniques.

I've already ordered a crank blower and am looking for an anvil, but I think a cinder block will work for now just until I get a proper surface to work on.
I wish you good fortune in this endeavor. I have my blacksmith crafting me a Damascus steel short sword right now. It will be glorious!
 

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Can I have advice? Is there anything you can tell me to give me a head start? Maybe things to avoid doing? I want to make knives and spearheads at first to get a feel for smithing. Then I want to experiment with more advanced techniques.

I've already ordered a crank blower and am looking for an anvil, but I think a cinder block will work for now just until I get a proper surface to work on.
100% wholesome, 100% practical.

Best advice I can give - start with nails. They are cheap and easy to make. I'm talking like, if you are brand new and don't know what is going on yet. But you can never have enough nails, and they can be resmelted in a pinch.

I have been a blacksmith at one of the last various white ethnic events in the US for close to 20 years now, and that is the best advice I can possibly give. Nails.
 

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Pretty alright. Ordered more coke from a local vendor.

The black kind that burns, not the white one that makes you bleed from your nose.
Well so tell us all about it.

Did you get a better more insulated forge?

What are you using for an anvil now?

What have you made so far?

Any aches and pains, blisters, broken fingers or burns?

Tangent time! I remember quite a few years ago I was into making chainmaille, I only ever made closed ring stuff, but the really good stuff is riveted. Which I'm sure isn't news to you.

I was going to try to make a glove out of fine rings but it was super fussy. I ended up with just a ring mail finger cot 🀣

If you want to get into that you can buy bulk rings from The Ring Lord out of Winnipeg. /tangent
 

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Can I have advice? Is there anything you can tell me to give me a head start? Maybe things to avoid doing? I want to make knives and spearheads at first to get a feel for smithing. Then I want to experiment with more advanced techniques.

I've already ordered a crank blower and am looking for an anvil, but I think a cinder block will work for now just until I get a proper surface to work on.
Congratulations!

I replaced my thermal paste on Sunday, going to apply for a position at Intel tomorrow.
 

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Well so tell us all about it.

Did you get a better more insulated forge?

What are you using for an anvil now?

What have you made so far?

Any aches and pains, blisters, broken fingers or burns?
The forge is the same idea as before, except I'm going for a way simpler idea (a few bricks, about a foot wide and three foot long) with coals piled up. I learned that keeping them close together is best.

I haven't shown you guys my anvil yet, have I?
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I've actually just been trying to perfect the startup process. I'm still using the blowdryer idea just because I got scared away from a dedicated blower from my experiences before.

So, haven't really done anything except make bent up rebar.
 

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Can I have advice? Is there anything you can tell me to give me a head start? Maybe things to avoid doing? I want to make knives and spearheads at first to get a feel for smithing. Then I want to experiment with more advanced techniques.

I've already ordered a crank blower and am looking for an anvil, but I think a cinder block will work for now just until I get a proper surface to work on.
You forgot to capitalize the B in Blacksmith... fuckin racist 🀣
 

Jebal_Dokundy

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100% wholesome, 100% practical.

Best advice I can give - start with nails. They are cheap and easy to make. I'm talking like, if you are brand new and don't know what is going on yet. But you can never have enough nails, and they can be resmelted in a pinch.

I have been a blacksmith at one of the last various white ethnic events in the US for close to 20 years now, and that is the best advice I can possibly give. Nails.
Nails are must.

 
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