How Will Pastors Sell These Broads to Men?

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Doing anything for female approval is total faggot shit. Fuck what women want or need.

The only male shaming I'll accept is shaming faggots into compliance. It's probably not their fault that they have mommy syndrome, but the real crime here is forcing actual men to put up with this garbage behaviour. Weak men, much like women, drag the rest of us down and normalize bad behaviour. It has probably cost white societies literally trillions of dollars to pretend women are equal to men over the last six decades. It's insufferably decadent.
All the (((feminist))) kvetching about "extremism" in the Trad Con world is bullshit. One needs to look "around" at these people and realize just how vaginal these people really are. Trad Con, Inc. is all about female approval. Women rule the roost in these homes, and the man gets to LARP once a week at church that he is in control.
 

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In fairness, Continental Masons were basically proto-Communists that did some pretty heinous shit, alot of it attacking the Catholic Church. But the history of English Masonry and it's criticisms of Catholicism are basically just the exact same criticisms every Anglo Protestant had since Henry VIII.

I've wrestled with it at times, but after doing my research and actually talking to regular Masons, I've figured it's the chicken, not the egg. The organization is just a reflection of the culture that birthes it. Lots of bad guys have been Masons, and lot's of good guys have been, but that's just because there are good and bad people in our ethnic group. The Masons just get blown up because they were a manifestation of the culture that ruled the world for 250 years.

And they make it a point to keep criminals out, I was talking to the Secretary at the Lodge and he told me they rejected a guy for a twenty year old B&E charge he got when he was 17. The Southern lodges are still de jure segregated and here in the Midwest they are basically de facto segregated.

It really is a shame that there isn't a push in these circles to get young guys involved in these types of organizations, if not even the Masons, because the old fellas there, alot of them are Silent Gen because the Boomers eschewed fraternal lodges, and they are desperately looking for younger guys to step up and be a part of these organizations.

The secretary there has been serving in that role since my great grandpa was Lodgemaster in the 70s and though he is in extremely poor health (he just had a stroke last year), made it a point to start coming back to lodge meetings to see me in. There's all these old timers out there willing to actually pass down insight to us before they die, and we're passing up our chance to know a world before the Boomers, which is important to somebody in my age group (late Millennial) to connect with. It's a tiny little part of our culture that the Boomers did not completely nuke, dangling in the wind, and I want to grab it before it's gone forever.
This topic comes up from time to time. One thing I would like to add is this, most Masons are basic bitch Conservative and mainline Protestant--and are decent sorts. That being said, they are incredibly unaware of what lies beneath Freemasonry. Go to any large metro area, and you will find a lodge that is a little "different" than the rest. The men are younger, are serious about ritual, and often times have a "goth" look to them. It will just so happen that these men are also Thelemites (the religion of Aleister Crowley). It has been said many times in the Occult World that Freemasonry is like a "Boot Camp" to learn ritual/organization. Old Masons like your grandfather either don't know or in some cases choose not to know about these sorts. I've chatted with a couple of Masons about this, and some have been very forthright. While others have said, "Well I don't know about this Aleister Crowley--I'm a Lutheran".
 

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This topic comes up from time to time. One thing I would like to add is this, most Masons are basic bitch Conservative and mainline Protestant--and are decent sorts. That being said, they are incredibly unaware of what lies beneath Freemasonry. Go to any large metro area, and you will find a lodge that is a little "different" than the rest. The men are younger, are serious about ritual, and often times have a "goth" look to them. It will just so happen that these men are also Thelemites (the religion of Aleister Crowley). It has been said many times in the Occult World that Freemasonry is like a "Boot Camp" to learn ritual/organization. Old Masons like your grandfather either don't know or in some cases choose not to know about these sorts. I've chatted with a couple of Masons about this, and some have been very forthright. While others have said, "Well I don't know about this Aleister Crowley--I'm a Lutheran".
That very well could be. Small town Masonic Lodges are a pretty different creature from whatever is going on in the big cities though. I highly doubt Blue Lodge Masons are doing any kind of Crowley type semen-based demon summoning rituals, or even any guys in the more advanced Rites. Wouldn't put it passed a bunch of city boy fags to do that sort of stuff though. I reckon it is what you make of it, and I doubt it was founded for that purpose.
 

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The bbs user β€œPinochet” shed a lot of light on the scams of modern religious institutions. I’m wondering if Jozef_Tiso is the same guy?

A friend of mine had a father-in-law that recently died of a heart attack. Once a man of financial means, my friend was shocked when digging through the estate to find that all his money was gone. Where did it go? It turned out that he was paying for the rent and car payments for a mini harem of single-moms from his church. So while younger men are increasingly catching-on and tuning-out, the greasy paws of the eternal boomer are still warping the sexual marketplace with β€œbuxing” literally until the last beat of their cholesterol-clogged hearts.
 

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The bbs user β€œPinochet” shed a lot of light on the scams of modern religious institutions. I’m wondering if Jozef_Tiso is the same guy?

A friend of mine had a father-in-law that recently died of a heart attack. Once a man of financial means, my friend was shocked when digging through the estate to find that all his money was gone. Where did it go? It turned out that he was paying for the rent and car payments for a mini harem of single-moms from his church. So while younger men are increasingly catching-on and tuning-out, the greasy paws of the eternal boomer are still warping the sexual marketplace with β€œbuxing” literally until the last beat of their cholesterol-clogged hearts.
I believe he is. I recall having seen him claim so in any case. If ao it should be in his posting history.
 

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Doing anything for female approval is total faggot shit. Fuck what women want or need.
This is really the only thing the "Manosphere" needs to say. And the big irony is that doing things for female approval makes them have no interest or respect for you.

My own brother is one of those whose entire sense of himself is completely dependent on approval from some woman, and it's really and truly just sad. There is no other word for it. You really cannot help someone see if they prefer to be blind.

My main piece of advice to the young dudes, especially guys in their teens who haven't had a woman yet, is that it's not as good as the entirety of pop culture has convinced you. It's certainly not good enough to debase yourself in its pursuit.
 

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My own brother is one of those whose entire sense of himself is completely dependent on approval from some woman, and it's really and truly just sad. There is no other word for it. You really cannot help someone see if they prefer to be blind.
In my experience, the saddest examples of this are the men who have inverted the customary transmission of individually-held opinions from male to female, instead looking to their wives and girlfriends for guidance and inspiration. Coincidentally, none of these guys seem to notice how much their women despise them.
 

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Stay away. The guys a low life jodieboy. Even if lapsed you have a duty to not attend pretty services
 

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e Anglo-Celtic culture
Rocky, couple of things. By Anglo-Celtic do you mean Scotch-Irish? I have a metric ton of respect for the Scotch-Irish, they are the people that have made America. George Wallace realized something that sadly was weaponized by the GOP under Reagan. The Scotch-Irish in the South had more in common with White Ethnic Catholics in the North than they did with their "High End" WASP cousins.
 

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I've noticed Catholics seem more inclined to think masons are a big deal.

I don't really know what to think about them, most of my information has come from kooks.

Fraternal organizations are probably a good thing in general. Especially if you can not let in undesirables.
The thing about Freemasons is that you have to understand that they were always the revolutionary disciples of Jews throughout the past. They were always anti-Monarchy and anti-Catholic. Because of those two positions they often teamed up with World Jewry, the other revolutionary and international group of the past.

Now, with respect to what @Rocky from the Backwoods said above, there is a grain of truth there as well, because you have to understand that we already today live in the world that the Freemasons of the past worked so hard to revolutionize in the their past.

There is no more "revolution" to be had today, in other words, because we are all already in it now. The majority of Westerners at least believe exactly today what the Freemasons of 200-300 years ago believed. So there is just nothing "radical" or "revolutionary" in the whole Masonic mindset today. Which means the organizations themselves are rather obsolete. Which explains the impression that Rocky gets when he goes to his local lodge.

Plus there are even way more nuances that I won't even go into here such as the fact that the majority of Masonic lodges even in the past were not the real global players calling the shots in secret smoky backroom dealings. This sort of thing only happened in certain specific lodges around certain specific global players. But the power of the Masons today is ironically in a lot of ways similar to the power of the Catholic Church: its lower than it has ever been in truth!

Just like there was a day when the Vatican was every bit as powerful as a King, there also was a day (18th-19th Centuries) when Freemasonry was proxy of world power, which during that time had enough power to unseat kings, challenge popes, and cause world revolution.

But their (the Freemasons') regime is already in power now. That's what WWI-WWII was all about in Western nations. Hitler of course challenged them, as we all know.

They are not revolutionary any more, because to be "revolutionary" today would require one to be anti-Liberalism.

That's why the Masons and their organizations are toothless today in general.
 

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Which means the organizations themselves are rather obsolete. Which explains the impression that Rocky gets when he goes to his local lodge.
America is largely a Masonic Construct (religious indifference, anti-Monarchy) England kicked out the Pope and neutered the King.

I have shared that I was raised a Catholic and for a time spent some time in Trad Catholic Circles. Many of these Trads are Monarchists, and fail to understand just how degenerate the European Monarchs are.
 

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Rocky, couple of things. By Anglo-Celtic do you mean Scotch-Irish? I have a metric ton of respect for the Scotch-Irish, they are the people that have made America. George Wallace realized something that sadly was weaponized by the GOP under Reagan. The Scotch-Irish in the South had more in common with White Ethnic Catholics in the North than they did with their "High End" WASP cousins.
Yeah, when I use that term, I'm referring to the Scots-Irish and English people who were the main ethnic group of American society from around 1642-1965. ID uses it to describe Dixian culture, but it does rightly apply to all America, especially to Western culture, and to lesser extents Yankee and Midwestern culture.

To your point about the Southern Scots-Irish and Northern ethnic Catholics, there was alot they had common ground on. Though I would argue Nixon was the first to harness that bloc for the GOP when he steam-rolled McGovern '72, using Wallace's playbook. I have nothing but love and admiration for George Wallace, the last of the great old Democrats. A Wallace vs. Nixon election in '72 had he not been shot, may have permanently took America on a harder right social trajectory than it did. Sad
 

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Though I would argue Nixon was the first to harness that bloc for the GOP when he steam-rolled McGovern '72,
I don't dispute that for one minute. That being said, Reagan and Conservative, Inc. "weaponized" this. Especially when it came to social issues. They could always use them as a "carrot" to get social conservatives to the polls to vote. Of course, as E. Michael Jones pointed out after the fall of the Soviet Union the purpose of the Religious Right/Social Conservatives was perpetual "Blessing" of Israel.

Funny thing, I know a few old timers that look fondly back at George Wallace. Boomer recoil in terror when I tell them that he was awesome--and the last politician to work for the interests of poor whites. There was a thread on the old forum about Wallace, and it should be noted he really wanted Ezra Taft Benson to be his running mate.
 

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What's your hard-on with Freemasons? The Anglosphere Lodges were never involved in the same conspiratorial stuff as the Continental lodges. Even the Catholic Church has admitted such if you look hard enough for their statement.

The Freemasons are basically just a WASP fraternal organization with a kooky origins story. The whole 'Judaism for whites' is kind of farcical when you consider Charles Lindbergh, Henry Ford and pretty much every single prominent WASP anti-Semite and anti-Communist in the 20th century were Masons. Anybody who talks about the "33rd degree" needs to keep in mind that if you've talked with anybody in the Masons for five minutes,they all pretty much hate 33rd degree guys, let alone view them as their "leaders". Even Musonius, who's probably the most intelligent and consistent guy in the Dissident Right, is a 32nd degree Mason

I'm not a Mason, but I have gone to my local lodge a couple times and I do plan on joining once this China Virus shit clears up. My great grandfather was a Past Master at the local lodge, and was the biggest racist in my entire family. I've been down there and it was not a shadowy cabal of secret masterminds but about a dozen friendly 70-90 year olds eating shitty spaghetti in an old building with a leaky roof that smelled like mold and mothballs.

I'm not trying to call you out @Jozef_Tiso , but it seems to me like for somebody who really doesn't care for any vestige of the Anglo-Celtic culture of the founders of this country, why in heaven's sake did you move to Alabama of all places?
The only mason I ever met was an old, friendly black man at a Christmas party many years ago. He was originally from Barbados iirc, and had no chip on his shoulder. I wanted to ask him a few questions about the masons, but I never got a chance to.
 

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The only mason I ever met was an old, friendly black man at a Christmas party many years ago. He was originally from Barbados iirc, and had no chip on his shoulder. I wanted to ask him a few questions about the masons, but I never got a chance to.
Masonry is very much a trait of Commonwealth Nations.
 

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This is why you don't listen to heretics. I am no model Christian, quite the opposite (so, it's a logical paradox - by my own words, you should not listen to me). It's very easy to twist words into the opposite meaning - especially for our sympathy challenged middle-eastern friends with high verbal IQ - unless you have a broad and uniform agreement (that's more or less what the word 'catholicity' means) on what do those words mean.

This, coincidentally, is also the reason why 'soft' sciences are all Jewed up bullshit whlist 'hard' ones are not (yet), despite the significant % of Jews in the latter.
 

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What percentage of young and middle aged men are listening to their pastors and marrying whores and baby mommas? From what I can see at a distance, a minority of men are rejecting it overall in society but most men are so thirsty that they simply lower their standards to fit the available supply and what is acceptable in their local culture
 

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In the back of this Pastor's mind, I am sure he realizes that these "Great Gals" cannot be wifed up anytime soon. The fear is getting real for the Trad Con "Sales Force".
The only real thing that can be done with those whores (apart from burning at the stake, obv) is sending them to a nunnery. They can at least grow their own food and make the communion wafers there.

Imagine wanting to put your dick in something that very definitely has some horrible disease. That is not wife or mother material. No one should pretend that it is.
 

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For the overwhelming majority, challenging someone's beliefs makes them dig in harder.
Probably. But the minority are worth finding/freeing by persisting with that tactic.
 

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The only real thing that can be done with those whores (apart from burning at the stake, obv) is sending them to a nunnery. They can at least grow their own food and make the communion wafers there.

Imagine wanting to put your dick in something that very definitely has some horrible disease. That is not wife or mother material. No one should pretend that it is.
These sorts of girls go to churches that stress "relationship" over "religion" or "works"--that is to say large megachurches. Hell, the Catholic Church has nuns now that are largely communist social workers who rent-seek for gibs to help browns/blacks. Point taken however on if we lived in a sane world, nunneries are where these women would go.
 

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