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Sardinian_Guy

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There's almost literally 0 point in buying the most popular guns like an ak, ar, or anything else that shoots a common round like 7.62×39, 5.56, 9mm, etc since you can't find it anywhere without paying almost more than triple the normal asking price.

Guns have affectively become expensive paper weights.
Shotguns shells are still in the shelves even its birdshot you can turn them in something better even without reloading tools
I'm not talking about cut shells, but wax slugs you can still remove the lead pellets and put them real slugs and buckshots
and close the top of the plastic hull with something like "super glue"
(Yes I should write an article on the stuff on SHTF that I know)
 

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Shotguns shells are still in the shelves even its birdshot you can turn them in something better even without reloading tools
I'm not talking about cut shells, but wax slugs you can still remove the lead pellets and put them real slugs and buckshots
and close the top of the plastic hull with something like "super glue"
(Yes I should write an article on the stuff on SHTF that I know)
Correct sir. Shotgun shells are on the shelves everywhere...even Walmart. Shotguns are often overlooked but they are devastating weapons up close.
 

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There's almost literally 0 point in buying the most popular guns like an ak, ar, or anything else that shoots a common round like 7.62×39, 5.56, 9mm, etc since you can't find it anywhere without paying almost more than triple the normal asking price.

Guns have affectively become expensive paper weights.
Now we know who didn't buy ammo when it was cheap. :D

Only things I could be considered to be short on is semi-obscure stuff like .257 Weatherby, .218 Bee, 10.35 Italian, or 6.5 Mauser.
 

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I've been eyeing 1911s in 9mm. Can anyone weigh in?
Meh. Don't get me wrong; I love the 1911 overall in .45.
To me, it's kinda pointless to get one in 9mm. In particular, I don't like the way they conceal carry. That beaver tail can jab you in the gut. Plus, the 1911 is a bit complicated to tear all the way down to clean.

I love the plastic striker guns...Glock, Springfield XD's, etc. Simple, relatively light, and reliable.
 

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Shotguns shells are still in the shelves even its birdshot you can turn them in something better even without reloading tools
I'm not talking about cut shells, but wax slugs you can still remove the lead pellets and put them real slugs and buckshots
and close the top of the plastic hull with something like "super glue"
(Yes I should write an article on the stuff on SHTF that I know)
as long as its not randy weaver type altering ammunition or barrel length or how to hide weapons in plastic tubes buried in the lake...
 

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as long as its not randy weaver type altering ammunition or barrel length or how to hide weapons in plastic tubes buried in the lake...
There are a few legal shorty shotguns that are still ATF legal even with a pistol grip and pistol brace. My current favorite is the Black Aces Pro Series S. It's only 3+1 with 3" shells but it's sooo much fun and a shoulder killer after a box of shells.
 

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Looks like fun!

That "pistol brace" shit is hilarious to me. Not that it isn't a cool gun and all but it's kind of absurd how they're letting all this "pistol" stuff fly when 10 years ago if you got caught with that same thing (a destructive device, look that up) you'd be lucky to just be getting out of prison now. Same deal with the SBRs- I mean, AR "pistols": in the past it seemed kind of silly to call a chopped down AR with no buttstock a "pistol," but at least there was the distinction that it didn't have a buttstock! And just imagine having paid $200 to register one or more SBRs before the feds signed off on all this brace business... you'd have to feel like a total sucker by now.

Some of these "braces" barely even attempt to hide what they are. Look at this one to convert a pistol into an SBR-alike (it doesn't even have a sleeve or strap):

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That's an "arm brace." Oh, and that thing on the front? That's not a foregrip, it's a "magazine retention device."

It's just bizarre, NFA might as well stand for "Not Fucking Around" with how harshly it's known to be enforced. But all this silliness is allowed that is obviously designed to skirt laws that men have been killed for breaking in the very recent past. What's next, integrated silencers marketed as "advanced cooling baffles" or "flash reduction devices"?

I dunno man. Part of me thinks it's some kind of honeypot. Like one day they're gonna change their minds and subpoena the vendors' customer records.
 

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it's kind of absurd how they're letting all this "pistol" stuff fly when 10 years ago if you got caught with that same thing (a destructive device, look that up) you'd be lucky to just be getting out of prison now. Same deal with the SBRs- I mean, AR "pistols": in the past it seemed kind of silly to call a chopped down AR with no buttstock a "pistol,"
I get what you mean, but I'm glad to take advantage of it. Now I have 3.
Someone discovered it was a "civil right" under the ADA which is very broad in it's definition of a disability.

 

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That "pistol brace" shit is hilarious to me. Not that it isn't a cool gun and all but it's kind of absurd how they're letting all this "pistol" stuff fly when 10 years ago if you got caught with that same thing (a destructive device, look that up) you'd be lucky to just be getting out of prison now. Same deal with the SBRs- I mean, AR "pistols": in the past it seemed kind of silly to call a chopped down AR with no buttstock a "pistol," but at least there was the distinction that it didn't have a buttstock! And just imagine having paid $200 to register one or more SBRs before the feds signed off on all this brace business... you'd have to feel like a total sucker by now.

Some of these "braces" barely even attempt to hide what they are. Look at this one to convert a pistol into an SBR-alike (it doesn't even have a sleeve or strap):

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That's an "arm brace." Oh, and that thing on the front? That's not a foregrip, it's a "magazine retention device."

It's just bizarre, NFA might as well stand for "Not Fucking Around" with how harshly it's known to be enforced. But all this silliness is allowed that is obviously designed to skirt laws that men have been killed for breaking in the very recent past. What's next, integrated silencers marketed as "advanced cooling baffles" or "flash reduction devices"?

I dunno man. Part of me thinks it's some kind of honeypot. Like one day they're gonna change their minds and subpoena the vendors' customer records.
All great points. I've always got the impression too, that the "rifle pistol" was a legal crock of shit. The arm braces are undeniably buttstocks, and that makes all these rifles (the ones with barrels shorter than 16" or whatever) by definition SBRs, but which somehow don't require the stamp and extra paperwork. It's magic.

But the interesting thing is that all these de facto SBRs "flooding the streets" the last few years hasn't shown a spike in rifle-involved crime. In fact, I can't remember one single case of a "pistol" with an "arm brace" used in a high profile shooting, contrast to the way that ARs and bump stocks have been branded onto the public's brains. So where the rubber meets the road... is the danger of allowing short barreled rifles imagined? Practical results seem to say yes. Maybe it's an antiquated vestige of Al Capone's era and the law needs to be simplified.

On the last part you said, I can't imagine they'd in the future go after people who legally obtained / own guns which were configured to be legal when they were first sold. That would be like trying to stuff the shit back in the horse, pretty much futile and impossible to implement. So I wouldn't worry about it. Stuff like that tends to end up under a "grandfather clause".
 

RickGozinya

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That "pistol brace" shit is hilarious to me. Not that it isn't a cool gun and all but it's kind of absurd how they're letting all this "pistol" stuff fly when 10 years ago if you got caught with that same thing (a destructive device, look that up) you'd be lucky to just be getting out of prison now. Same deal with the SBRs- I mean, AR "pistols": in the past it seemed kind of silly to call a chopped down AR with no buttstock a "pistol," but at least there was the distinction that it didn't have a buttstock! And just imagine having paid $200 to register one or more SBRs before the feds signed off on all this brace business... you'd have to feel like a total sucker by now.

Some of these "braces" barely even attempt to hide what they are. Look at this one to convert a pistol into an SBR-alike (it doesn't even have a sleeve or strap):

View attachment 26676

That's an "arm brace." Oh, and that thing on the front? That's not a foregrip, it's a "magazine retention device."

It's just bizarre, NFA might as well stand for "Not Fucking Around" with how harshly it's known to be enforced. But all this silliness is allowed that is obviously designed to skirt laws that men have been killed for breaking in the very recent past. What's next, integrated silencers marketed as "advanced cooling baffles" or "flash reduction devices"?

I dunno man. Part of me thinks it's some kind of honeypot. Like one day they're gonna change their minds and subpoena the vendors' customer records.
I wouldn't do that to any of my Glocks. Too many add on parts that could be considered changing the "characteristics" of the firearm. I go with the CAA Micro Roni series (gen3). It's only a chassis for the Glock to fit into. Plenty of rails and folding "brace".

No one is breaking any ATF laws this way and even if it becomes banned, you turn it in or destroy it. Sucks that you would be out the $$$ but better than being behind bars.
 

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Who ever saw Clear and Present Danger? Willam DeFoe's sbr was hot. Who knows what this is?
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Also, the bad guy from Bad Boys had this 4 shot derringer. Was cool.
 
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