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Seamus McHermit

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I’m starting this thread as a catch-all for topics related to growing and raising food, gardening, livestock, etc. Depending on the level of interest, more threads could possibly be made for specific areas of interest.

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Health nut/natural living: concerned about where food comes from and how it’s produced, and ways to live better, but not interested in producing your own.

Small garden: a few pots of herbs up to a couple raised beds and a few trees. Supplemental amount of food produced. No or a few pet animals.

Large garden: many garden beds, producing a large portion of nutrition needs. Greenhouse, seed starting, small orchard, some animals.

Homestead: up to 5 acres, many/large gardens, variety of animals for many purposes, diverse orchards, 50%+ self sufficient.

Farm/large scale: 5+ acres, producing products for sale, 90%+ self sufficient/sustainable, or community sized (multiple families/households.)

Answer the poll if you feel like it because it will help gauge whether certain topics deserve their own threads. Post projects/ideas/examples, but nothing identifiable or doxy.
 

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Tomato, cucumber and bean crop has about run its course this year. I want to plant some cabbage and collard greens. Is it too late in the season to do that?

I do good in spring but often get busy and forget to stagger seedlings later in the season for a longer grow season.
 

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Just came in from getting the Kirbys that are doing ok. I did a second sowing of seeds last week so we’d maybe have a second harvest. Just cherry tomatoes, the reg garden cucumber, yellow and green zucchini, Buttercup squash and string beans.

I planted in the spring cherry, Roma and beefsteak tomatoes and they just started being able to harvest last week or so. Have a nice spice garden doing with all the basics Good though. The Kirby cukes, garlic which is curing, carrots which came out looking dumb, little ice box watermelon, string beans, the zucchini (which got squash vine borers and I had to removed them! Yuck!) lettuce that the rabbits got to, blueberries that the birds got to, potatoes which I just started digging up. I also had used compost from over the winter and what I thought were rouge cucumber seedlings turned out to be cantaloupes! I have about 6 or 8 plants in all different beds out there and gave some away. Only one cantaloupe is close to being ripe I think.

I’m a plant maniac, I trade buy and sell cactus, succulents and tons of other houseplants. If anyone wants to talk about that please @ me! Lol

This is my first year what for me is a large garden. Our yard in nyc was 25 x 40 maybe and I would only grow tomatoes. Poorly too. Just wasn’t worth it really with such little space and I focused on my flower arrangements and houseplants I take out in warm weather.

I’m pretty proud of what i was able to do this year. My husbands making me some copper tubing trellis’ for the new bunch of cucumbers and stuff, I asked him about it in the winter and he said let’s see if I can handle it before he puts time into making me a bunch of trellis‘. The wood ones I got got hammered during a storm last week. Can’t wait to see what he makes me!

Oh I have something else growing that I can’t identify correctly. No clue where it came from prob the compost I’m guessing or bird crap. Lol Every app tells me something different, winter squash, summer squash? ...does this look familiar to anyone? [EDC5726D-404B-4B72-92D9-96EF2ED7C725.jpegATTACH=full]17043[/ATTACH]
 
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Tomato, cucumber and bean crop has about run its course this year. I want to plant some cabbage and collard greens. Is it too late in the season to do that?

I do good in spring but often get busy and forget to stagger seedlings later in the season for a longer grow season.
I just put some cabbage in a week or so ago Its not too late.

It’s not too late to plant another round unless you’re way up north. What zone are you in if you can say?
 

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Just came in from getting the Kirbys that are doing ok. I did a second sowing of seeds last week so we’d maybe have a second harvest. Just cherry tomatoes, the reg garden cucumber, yellow and green zucchini, Buttercup squash and string beans.

I planted in the spring cherry, Roma and beefsteak tomatoes and they just started being able to harvest last week or so. Have a nice spice garden doing with all the basics Good though. The Kirby cukes, garlic which is curing, carrots which came out looking dumb, little ice box watermelon, string beans, the zucchini (which got squash vine borers and I had to removed them! Yuck!) lettuce that the rabbits got to, blueberries that the birds got to, potatoes which I just started digging up. I also had used compost from over the winter and what I thought were rouge cucumber seedlings turned out to be cantaloupes! I have about 6 or 8 plants in all different beds out there and gave some away. Only one cantaloupe is close to being ripe I think.

I’m a plant maniac, I trade buy and sell cactus, succulents and tons of other houseplants. If anyone wants to talk about that please @ me! Lol

This is my first year what for me is a large garden. Our yard in nyc was 25 x 40 maybe and I would only grow tomatoes. Poorly too. Just wasn’t worth it really with such little space and I focused on my flower arrangements and houseplants I take out in warm weather.

I’m pretty proud of what i was able to do this year. My husbands making me some copper tubing trellis’ for the new bunch of cucumbers and stuff, I asked him about it in the winter and he said let’s see if I can handle it before he puts time into making me a bunch of trellis‘. The wood ones I got got hammered during a storm last week. Can’t wait to see what he makes me!

Oh I have something else growing that I can’t identify correctly. No clue where it came from prob the compost I’m guessing or bird crap. Lol Every app tells me something different, winter squash, summer squash? ... View attachment 17043
Copper tools are allegedly better for the soils energy...your trellises should be a hit!
 

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Making my own compost heap. Didnt think about the rouge seedlings that may come out of it. Pot luck crops!

Located in the Carolinas
I didn’t think about it either until surprise! Lol. I think the compost from over the winter helped with the low temps in the germination and keeping them fresh. Cause I have two heaps I alternate using and nothing has popped up since ive put any down during warm weather.

You’ll be fine in nc to put down seeds now. String beans I put down about 12 days ago are already a foot tall.
 
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Making my own compost heap. Didnt think about the rouge seedlings that may come out of it. Pot luck crops!

Located in the Carolinas
I have a nice tomato plant coming out of one of my compost pots...means I wont be turning the pot until season runs out.

Seeds in compost are allegedly killed off in a properly heated compostpile.
If you want to kill weed seeds it's best to follow compost rules!

Elaine ingham is compost queen, has nice lectures on jewtube
 

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On a more serious note, my cherry tomatoes are producing really well. The larger tomatoes (can't remember what I planted) are a lot slower to ripen, but they are looking good. Had a few peppers that were a lot more advanced. Those have been eaten, and now I'm waiting on more to ripen. Lost half of my squash plants to some kind of squash GRIDS, but the remaining plants are producing. Basil has been great. Okra just planted a few days ago, handful of sprouts already. Cat still shitting in my garden, just not when I'm looking. If I ever give you gypsy peppers, wash them.
 

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On a more serious note, my cherry tomatoes are producing really well. The larger tomatoes (can't remember what I planted) are a lot slower to ripen, but they are looking good. Had a few peppers that were a lot more advanced. Those have been eaten, and now I'm waiting on more to ripen. Lost half of my squash plants to some kind of squash GRIDS, but the remaining plants are producing. Basil has been great. Okra just planted a few days ago, handful of sprouts already. Cat still shitting in my garden, just not when I'm looking. If I ever give you gypsy peppers, wash them.
You got squash vine borers! They’re moths that only come out from the soil in late June till mid July and lay eggs on the vine of squash, they bore into the core of the vine and eat their disgusting grub looking ass till they kill the plant and then go back intol the soil to turn into moths and do the same damage next year. You can try to not plant squash in the same place next year. Wait till after the second week of July to seedlings in the ground or wrap the stem in aluminum foil from dirt to tip so the bastards don’t lay eggs on it. or use pesticide which is last resort for me.

You can take a sharp knife and cut lengthwise down the vine. If you see a orange copper like dust on some places it’s their shit. It’s called fass. Gross. When you cut into it only cut into halfway and then Open the vine up and you see a few of them sometimes or just one fat one. Take it out with tweezers, squeeze or tie up the open vine and cover it with compost and keep it watered and the squash aids is cured. Lol
 
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I'm about to take my boots off from wagecucking shift and go out and water chickens, look over raised beds and generally lollygag around my compound... it rained today praise be to God! Barefoot in the grass and garden is a great communion with the lord's creation.

I try and listen for the holy spirit when I'm out in the gardens...

Thanks for putting up the thread.
We should all repent and plant some food!
 

Seamus McHermit

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I’ve been working on my first aquaponics/aquatic system. I’ve got a hard shell garden pond that’s around 150-200 gallons as the sump, then a 275 gallon IBC tote cut to about 225 gallons for the main fish growing tank, with the 50 gallon top section as an ebb and flow grow bed. This is more or less how I have the tank and grow bed set up, with the pond downhill from it a ways:
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(Mine is done much neater and better, with a wood shelf and rim around the tank and a facade made from pallet boards to protect it from the sun.)

I also have a 70 gallon stock tank, and haven’t decided whether to make it a flow-through wicking bed, or a minnow tank. I’m leaning towards minnow tank, so I have a constant supply of minnows to feed the fish I raise for eating (catfish and sunfish, possibly trout over winter and tilapia in summer.) I know I could potentially add hundreds of gallons of grow beds, but I’m more concerned with raising fish than growing plants, because I already have a large garden.

Jack Spirko of the Survival Podcast has been my main source of inspiration/information, and his galvanized tank system is the most similar to what I am trying to do:
(Here’s the playlist of 3 of his systems)
 

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You can try to not plant squash in the same place next year.
Originally, I overplanted squash ... Actually, the cat dug it up and it all ended up bunched together but same difference. I moved half of the plants to another spot to space them out. The transplants don't seem to have the AIDS. The other ones I ended up trashing. My remaining plants look pretty healthy, but I will be on the lookout for those fuckers.
 

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Originally, I overplanted squash ... Actually, the cat dug it up and it all ended up bunched together but same difference. I moved half of the plants to another spot to space them out. The transplants don't seem to have the AIDS. The other ones I ended up trashing. My remaining plants look pretty healthy, but I will be on the lookout for those fuckers.
The other possibility is squash bugs. I have those pretty bad right now, they look basically like a stink bug but a little smaller, grey with black legs.
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I have them marching in lines up and down most of my squash vines. Hopefully the chickens will handle that.
 

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I’ve been working on my first aquaponics/aquatic system. I’ve got a hard shell garden pond that’s around 150-200 gallons as the sump, then a 275 gallon IBC tote cut to about 225 gallons for the main fish growing tank, with the 50 gallon top section as an ebb and flow grow bed. This is more or less how I have the tank and grow bed set up, with the pond downhill from it a ways:
View attachment 17044
(Mine is done much neater and better, with a wood shelf and rim around the tank and a facade made from pallet boards to protect it from the sun.)

I also have a 70 gallon stock tank, and haven’t decided whether to make it a flow-through wicking bed, or a minnow tank. I’m leaning towards minnow tank, so I have a constant supply of minnows to feed the fish I raise for eating (catfish and sunfish, possibly trout over winter and tilapia in summer.) I know I could potentially add hundreds of gallons of grow beds, but I’m more concerned with raising fish than growing plants, because I already have a large garden.

Jack Spirko of the Survival Podcast has been my main source of inspiration/information, and his galvanized tank system is the most similar to what I am trying to do:
(Here’s the playlist of 3 of his systems)
Gawd I love this idea!

I have so many projects now I'm as afraid I can't start this type of adventure until I retire.
It looks hella cool. A perpetual motion feeding machine!
Bravo!
 

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I’ve been working on my first aquaponics/aquatic system. I’ve got a hard shell garden pond that’s around 150-200 gallons as the sump, then a 275 gallon IBC tote cut to about 225 gallons for the main fish growing tank, with the 50 gallon top section as an ebb and flow grow bed. This is more or less how I have the tank and grow bed set up, with the pond downhill from it a ways:
View attachment 17044
(Mine is done much neater and better, with a wood shelf and rim around the tank and a facade made from pallet boards to protect it from the sun.)

I also have a 70 gallon stock tank, and haven’t decided whether to make it a flow-through wicking bed, or a minnow tank. I’m leaning towards minnow tank, so I have a constant supply of minnows to feed the fish I raise for eating (catfish and sunfish, possibly trout over winter and tilapia in summer.) I know I could potentially add hundreds of gallons of grow beds, but I’m more concerned with raising fish than growing plants, because I already have a large garden.

Jack Spirko of the Survival Podcast has been my main source of inspiration/information, and his galvanized tank system is the most similar to what I am trying to do:
(Here’s the playlist of 3 of his systems)
That’s amazing. And you raise your own fish to eat wow. Something Ive never heard anyone say they do.
 

Seamus McHermit

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That’s amazing. And you raise your own fish to eat wow. Something Ive never heard anyone say they do.
Well, it’s just goldfish and minnows right now, I still haven’t finished it, but it’s operational. Hopefully by next spring I’ll have tasted a fish from it!
 

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I picked small gardening. My grandparents used to have livestock (pigs, goats, chicken) and all kinds of fruits and vegetables in their garden, but I actually never learned anything about this, because my own parents moved to the bigger city, where I was born and grew up. I will probably move to the countryside by next year and as of now my main interest is the basic stuff like what is good to plant in the first place.
 

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Got a few garden beds, get a good salad from them everyday. Getting heaps of peas, tomatoes, lettuces, herbs for tea, carrots and broccoli are looking ok, so far. I get fruit from people who have established orchards, they can't give it away fast enough. Bananas are awesome, when you machete the tree and cut the bunch.
Also growing a lot of aloe vera, mostly the missus looks after that.

Had a rabbit problem in town a few years ago, they kept eating everything in the garden, they started living in the shed. In the beginning, was happy to share, but it got out of control, it felt like a bunch of commieniggers stealing my shit, had to put wire fences around everything. Then the council poisoned all the rabbits, not cool.

Good thread.
 
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