Final Secret Proof that Jews Secretly Control China

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Starting a discussion about the supposed theory that Jews secretly control China. Trying to understand if people really believe this, or if it is just random confused people.

This is from this thread:


Serious question for all the China haters that are on the forum. The people who say β€œChina is controlled by Jews just like America and the rest of the whole world” β€œChina is communist and wants to destroy America in partnership with the Jews”.
There aren't any serious people saying that. Literally, trying to come up with a "China is controlled by the Jews" theory is on par with flat earth. It's not only that there is no evidence, or that it sounds silly, it's also that they are necessarily claiming that the entirety of geopolitics is a gigantic staged hoax which they can't explain the purpose of.

That is to say:

The whole conflict between the West and China is a hoax, if both are controlled by Jews. Okay, that's already in the realm of schizophrenia. But then: what is the purpose of this? If the Jews already secretly control China, then why are we having a conflict? If Jews already control the whole world, then what is the purpose of having a conflict? Wouldn't we already have the completed New World Order?

I'm sure someone who is willing to say "Jews secretly control China somehow" in the first place is willing to come up with some weird explanation as to why conflict still exists if the Jews already have total control. But that will just keep leading to more and more questions.

This is why you have to go from the facts, rather than form a theory first and then try find facts to back it up.

Basically, what's happening is that the mainstream of the right-wing is promoting this Chinese gibberish to distract from the Jews, and from real problems that we're dealing with in America (which are caused by Jews). Some people have come over to the far right, and found out facts that they can't forget, but remain normies at heart. They are then unable to mesh the truth of the Jewish control of our society with the fact that they want to be a part of the mainstream, and basically agree with normies.

So they say "well it must be that the Jews ALSO control China!"

I don't usually see people on this forum promoting this. But I did see Ed (who is a lost normie as I described, literally I've seen this guy promote feminism), post the worst comment in this forum's history yesterday:

The Chinese are the fucking Jews. It's a fucking Communist country. They had a hand in stealing the election. They are most likely supporting BLM and pushing all this nigger shit just like the Soviets used Communist niggers against Rhodesia so they could gain support in Africa.

It's like you fucking Commie Chink worshippers are fucking retarded or something.

It's a fucking Communist country. They are ruled by fucking Jews.

Even the fucking Muzzies understand this they are low IQ retards.

Jewish Faces in Chinese Government - Radio Islam (islam-radio.net)
You first note that he's completely unhinged.

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You then note that he's provided one single link, framing it as "even the Moslems know..."

It's quite a thing to use people you think are stupid as a source of information in this context, where we're dealing with geopolitical facts. It seems when you're making such an extraordinary claim, that is so far outside of the normal understanding of reality in both the right wing and the mainstream, that you would want to present facts. Short of facts, you'd at least want a legitimate analysis, instead of "dumb people believe this, therefore it must be true."

So why did he post that link?

Well, because that's the link that comes up when you type "jews control the chinese government" into any search engine other than Google (Google blocks Radio Islam).

Bing:

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You can find in the top 3-4 search results on DuckDuckGo, Yahoo!, etc.

Based on what I've seen from Ed, he is probably using Bing because it comes as the default when you open a new computer with Internet Explorer installed. Boomers also end up using Bing because various browser hijackers that they download when they randomly download things on the internet force a redirect to Bing. But maybe he uses Yahoo! because that's where his email is.

Point being: This is a person who decided on a belief that comforts him, then did a browser search for that thing.

I doubt that he even read that link. It's not an essay explaining the theory of secret Jewish control of China. It's just some pictures of various Jewish communists and bankers who have worked in China, accompanied by copy and pasted bits from Wikipedia explaining who they are.

I have seen people post that link before, but I have yet to see an essay explaining how "Sydney Rittenberg was a translator for Mao Zedong" means that "Jews secretly control the Chinese Communist Party." Rittenberg was imprisoned (in solitary confinement) by the CCP for nearly a decade, accused of being an American spy. We're talking about events that happened sixty years ago. Apparently, the claim is that Rittenberg, either before or after being imprisoned as a spy by Mao, "took control of the communist party" and that he (now over 100) or maybe his descendants still control the country today.

That link comes up constantly with these people, because it is basically the only random conspiracy theory blog that you can find with a headline talking about secret Jewish control of China. This isn't something that the kind of people who actually make websites believe. It's a silly thing that weak people believe because it simplifies their understanding of the world.

This is to say: it isn't a real belief.

Obviously, there are no facts to back up this assertion, but more than that, people who post this on forums have a difficult time even explaining what they are talking about. Even if you accept the premise that you can formulate an acceptable theory which encompasses the entirety of modern geopolitics without any facts at all, it is confusing where you even start. As I said, they talk a lot about Rittenberg, because he's a name that comes up when you search "China Jews." But they don't actually know who he is, so they can't engage you on "how did he take over China?"

This is baby stuff. It's actually insulting to me personally that someone would read my website and then say something like this. But again: this is emotional. These people want to feel connected to the mainstream of the American right-wing, and the American right-wing is currently obsessed with China.

I don't understand the whole anti-China thing in general, other than just on the basic level of "those people look different than you and they are bad." But it seems to be very easy to get people to hate the Chinese. I never even met a Chinese person growing up, other than seeing them at the Chinese restaurant. Chinese figures we have in our culture (Jackie Chan, Bruce Lee) are well liked.

It's exhausting, frankly. I'm so sick of being accused of defending the Chinese. I have never defended the Chinese, and I do not support defending the Chinese. I don't think people should defend the Chinese. Chinese people eat dogs and they spit in elevators, they are loud and they flick cigarette butts everywhere, including in nice flower beds. I don't see anything to defend.

But this situation of blaming China for what is going on in America just makes absolutely zero sense. It is a very low level distraction to target the lowest common denominator, getting them to stop looking at the people who destroyed our country and look all the way over to the other side of the planet at some silly bunch of goofballs.

But then: like Ed does above, if you say "actually, China isn't really the problem here," they accuse you of being a Chinese shill, of loving communism, etc. etc. etc.

Imagine if Fox News and Breitbart were saying that the problems we are dealing with in America were caused by the Jangaweed of the Sudan and then every time you pointed out that the Sudan isn't really what we need to be worrying about right now you were accused of being a nigger-lover. That's what I feel like.

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But yeah, as far as I've seen, Ed is the only one promoting this now. There was another guy who promoted it, but he got buttmad and left (for the second time) a few months ago.

But I've now wasted how many minutes of my life typing this up as a defense against the most vicious sort of retard, so I hope that if people do promote this bullshit in the future, they will be linked to this thread.

Here's the pitch, to any future person being linked to this thread:

Please explain the theory of how Jews secretly control China, and elaborate on the implications of that theory on geopolitics.



EDIT: Cleaned up some slop, because this thread is apparently very important business.
 
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" It's a fucking Communist country "

With regards to this. I have had a decent conversation with a philosopher who teaches lots of Chinese students.

We had discussed how people mislabel things as Communist or Fascist etc. In this discussion I said that if you really get down to it, China is not communistic nation, with their staunch nationalism, racial laws, ethnic cleansing of "certain cultures" heh. They fall more in line with a Fascist Oligarchy, to which he agreed.

Saying China is communistic - there for jews. Does not make sense at all. I do not believe Jews completely control China, they are however involved. It only makes sense, since they are a parasitic people. The long nosed tribe is definitely setting themselves up for an infiltration, they plan generations ahead. The ruling (jewish) elite absolutely take part in arranged marriages (breedings) they want to keep the wealth in the families. For example; Zuckerberg and his chink wife. They will have a half-breed child, who will easily identify as an Asian. This is only the beginning.
 
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Any country that the western media constantly attacks is a country NOT controlled by jews...

Examples:


Iran
North Korea
China
Venezuela
Afghanistan and Iraq before invasion
 

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CHINA IS A FASCIST STATE NOT COMMUNIST, the communist favors foreigners over natives whilst a fascist does the opposite. I view China as a golem of globo homo, not much different to the browns they unleash on us. I believe china will get smashed soon, declaring war on a nation that was given americas manufacturing base would help the great reset nicely. This may have been the entire point of de-industrializing america, ship it to china then nuke it from orbit.

how to tell if (((communists))) rule you: hatred of your nation, race and culture is promoted, colonization by browns, degeneracy promoted everywhere, attack on family unit and marriage, ineffectual law and order, allowing foreign powers to buy up your nation, etc
 

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If the Jews already secretly control China, then why are we having a conflict? If Jews already control the whole world, then what is the purpose of having a conflict?
nb4 any β€˜JigNats vs Optics Kikes’ excuses...
 

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China is not a military threat. I've said this before and I stand by it. They are not a military threat to the continental US. They pose a moderate threat to our fleets and our assets that are within striking distance of their mainland (ask yourself why our assets are there and what difference it would make to our way of life if they weren't).

They could never invade us without someone on the inside letting them. They are decades behind militarily and I doubt they have what it takes to slug it out with us, even in our currently weakened position.

China is a demographic threat and an increasing environmental threat but this is entirely our fault.

One of my Boomer-age older sisters was going on about China the other day. She reads Epic Times and that kind of thing even though I've told her repeatedly to read DS exclusively. She said "China interfered in the election". I was like "No, it was niggers who dumped those ballots in and it was jews who told them to do it". Then she said "but China sent the virus?". At that point I got mad and said "Blaming China for the virus being here is like leaving your door open and then blaming the outside for the fact that your house is cold".

Its an uphill battle with these people. Check the comments at Breitbart and other so-called right wing sites right now.

People have been given permission to attack China so they are doing it. Its the same thing as the situation with moslems. Jews have given the Boomers permission to attack so they are taking the opportunity.
 

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Jews obviously had a large part in supporting the Chinese communist party and helping them normalize relations with the US. But unfortunately for Jews they went up against a people that were just as soulless, greedy, and collectivist as they were and could not infiltrate. So yeah its pretty easy to understand all the Jewish saber rattling around China. The people that push the China controlled by Jews thing are either not informed or have bad intentions.

The only thing I would argue on is the censorship thing. I am sure that you can say nigger and faggot all you want on Chinese social media. That will probably get you fired and your life ruined in the west. But isn't the reasoning behind doing so usually to mentioned that the government is using both these groups as a weapon against us? Doing that in China would be insulting the government which would not be allowed. Most of the things we complain about would all lead back to the government which I can't imagine would be allowed in China.

I think the reason people generally overlook all of that is because we usually agree with the things China does like no mandatory masks and not allowing gays on television. But everything else is pretty shitty. Despite being considered the enemy of globohomo their society seems to be the blueprint for what our government is trying to roll out.
 

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China is not communist and has not been for many decades. They obviously have a highly profitable private sector--which is to say, there's far more economic liberty for an entrepreneur there than there is in the USA. Also, their so-called 'social credit system', very far from chilling free speech, cannot hold a candle to what we have here, where as everyone knows, there's a long long list of topics that are verboten (Anglin has been indexing the list of taboos a lot lately and accurately observing how much freer everything is currently in China than USA.
 

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The idea that "Jews control China" is stupid on its face. Only a retard could promote such a pants-on-head retarded theory. It's simply not even worth addressing as there's no hard evidence for it, and all the circumstantial evidence points in the exact opposite direction.

Now, if you want to argue that the people who run China aggressively act in their own interests, and that the Chinese have a lot of spies in this country, and that various Chinese actors have bought off many of our most prominent national politicians, and that if you made a Venn Diagram of the interests of the average white American and the interests of the people who run China, it would look something like this:

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...then those might be fair arguments. In other words, they probably view us like the people of any other country: people that maybe can do a few things for them, via trade or other forms of international cooperation. Other than that they couldn't care less.

Now let's elaborate this Venn diagram further to include other interested parties.

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I think that diagram fits the available evidence pretty well.
 
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China is not communist and has not been for many decades. They obviously have a highly profitable private sector--which is to say, there's far more economic liberty for an entrepreneur there than there is in the USA. Also, their so-called 'social credit system', very far from chilling free speech, cannot hold a candle to what we have here, where as everyone knows, there's a long long list of topics that are verboten (Anglin has been indexing the list of taboos a lot lately and accurately observing how much freer everything is currently in China than USA.

Yes. If one studies the history of China, they'll find that modern China is still pretty much exactly like...China.
 

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Yeah but Anglin, I bet, has never even heard of the Sassoon family, and its members are totally confirmed Jewish!

Also, if that didn't convince you, then watch this: Henry Kissinger is a total kike!

BOOM!!1

How you like that, Anglin!

You China-Lovers are for sure completely owned now!
 

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Please explain the theory of how Jews secretly control China, and elaborate on the implications of that theory on geopolitics.
The theory runs loosely along the lines of Mao having being funded and at least in part controlled by jews. I have no idea about that, haven't dug at it myself.
It allegedly led to China buying off US congressmen, and combined with big tech tag teaming social conditions and events to destabilize the nation at large. Dianne Feinstein has a place in Beijing and has been there for thirty years. I'm not sure is she's still the chair of the senate intelligence committee anymore, but she was for a long time. That is the only part of the theory that I think has basis in hard fact.

I've seen another one floating around the web that basically all of the west's problems and even religions started along the time of the beginning of the silk road and moved geographically westward, originating in the far east. Possible I guess, but that was so long ago that we'll never know the truth. That one to me seems like an angle the derp state would take to trap people who like to research. Nerd catnip.

Since China has been basically heavily mercantile for the better part of two thousand years, I think people are going to draw parallels to the Jews, because it's easy to do. Imho this is a disservice to the Chinese. China is better at it than the jews ever could hope to be, and the Chinese invented the idea of infiltration and destruction from the inside. They are much more crafty, and frankly, smarter. But for most of the time that they have existed, they have been isolationists.

It's worrisome to see the politicians laying the groundwork for a full scale war with these people. We're definitely heading in that direction at full speed. Maybe this is how they plan to unify the country in the future, getting us into a war we can't win. That would do wonders for patriotism and overall cohesion.
 

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Tangential to all of this is that terms like communism and fascism do not mean anything anymore and have no use except as an appeal to the emotions of political non-thinkers. It is a relic of an age when there was an actual debate during the industrial revolution about whether governments ought to interfere in the economy. As you may recall, this was a time where corporations existed that employed children and people had to work 12 hours a day in a factory with no safety standards. Since the early 20th century, all nations have had mixed economies and nobody questions the right of the State to legislate protections for workers or enforce any other law governing the affairs of different economic agents.
 

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This is why you have to go from the facts, rather than form a theory first and then try to back it up with facts.
That is what I think is called Β« naΓ―ve inductivism Β» in epistemology.

But:

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It sounds jewish but he’s actually right.

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A lot of people are coming to far right politics because fox and other media outlets are moving to the left. But they take the Chinese jibberish with them because it’s a talking point. And it doesn’t help any that Alex Jones and others reinforce it.

There are some concerns with China. But they are entirely about trade and what China does it its own backyard. Neither of those issues pose an existential threat to my people’s existence on earth.
 

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The whole conflict between the West and China is a hoax, if both are controlled by Jews. Okay, that's already in the realm of schizophrenia. But then: what is the purpose of this? If the Jews already secretly control China, then why are we having a conflict? If Jews already control the whole world, then what is the purpose of having a conflict? We don't we already have the completed New World Order?

I'm sure someone who is willing to say "Jews secretly control China somehow" in the first place is willing to come up with some weird explanation as to why conflict still exists if the Jews already have total control, but it will just keep leading to more and more questions.

This is why you have to go from the facts, rather than form a theory first and then try to back it up with facts.

Basically, what's happening is that the mainstream of the right-wing is promoting this Chinese gibberish to distract from the Jews, and from real problems that we're dealing with in America (which are caused by Jews). Some people who have come over to the far right, and found out facts that they can't forget but who are still normies at heart, are then unable to mesh the truth of the Jewish control of our society with the fact that they want to be a part of the mainstream, and basically agree with normies.
That there is the crux of the issue imo. β€œThe Jews control everything anyway so don’t worry or talk about CIA color revolutions anywhere”. β€œThe jews run Russia and China anyway so who cares about doing war with Russia and China, actually doing war with Russia and China is almost like war with Israel”. That kind of talk is inherently harmful to our cause imo..you have to be either insane or a willful shill to be saying that. You can’t filter out all the cooks all the time but active shills channeling right wing anger away from our own Judeo oligarchy towards the Jews targets need to fuck off and die. I can’t stand seeing people who are supposedly on our side actively attempting to channel White anger away from our immediate active enemies and to the few countries who are actually somewhat resisting zog.

Our natural constituency are right leaning White males. Those are the guys we need to come around to us and they are being bombarded with muh China non stop. We have to get them to say β€œyou know what everyone making my life a living hell lives right here”. β€œEverything I hate about modernity is being done by people right here”. Now it’s true that Jews are international and yes in that sense our problem is foreign. But the Jew thing is a wide open unhidden conspiracy that’s obvious and requires only that you decide Jews aren’t sacred because of the holocaust. Our homegrown traitors and kikes don’t hide that they work for international Jewry and not America.
 

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It's simple:

"The Chinese didn't close my business, my gym, my church, try to force vaccinate me while strapping a diaper to my face."
I agree but the Normie-con response β€œwho do you think ate the bat? They’ll parrot all Tuckers points from February. Normies operate in talking points and those talking points are reinforced by the media
 
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That there is the crux of the issue imo. β€œThe Jews control everything anyway so don’t worry or talk about CIA color revolutions anywhere”. β€œThe jews run Russia and China anyway so who cares about doing war with Russia and China, actually doing war with Russia and China is almost like war with Israel”. That kind of talk is inherently harmful to our cause imo..you have to be either insane or a willful shill to be saying that. You can’t filter out all the cooks all the time but active shills channeling right wing anger away from our own Judeo oligarchy towards the Jews targets need to fuck off and die. I can’t stand seeing people who are supposedly on our side actively attempting to channel White anger away from our immediate active enemies and to the few countries who are actually somewhat resisting zog.

Our natural constituency are right leaning White males. Those are the guys we need to come around to us and they are being bombarded with muh China non stop. We have to get them to say β€œyou know what everyone making my life a living hell lives right here”.


yes white men are getting told that they should channel all their nationalistic drive and hatred towards the Chinese. Which up until literally 1 year ago was channeled towards Islamic State. Something I don’t even think the media would acknowledges even existed anymore
 

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I agree but the Normie-con response β€œwho do you think ate the bat? They’ll parrot all Tuckers points from February. Normies operate in talking points and those talking points are reinforced by the media
Imho Tucker is exceptionally dangerous because he makes you feel. That whole feeling side appeals to our inherent white romanticism, the drive/instinct we have to inject beauty into the world. It's a compulsion. Just look at European architecture, it reflects the same thing. A reflection of our soul, built by the most beautiful souls living among us at the time.
Most normies don't posses razor sharp logical ability so they can't differentiate between feeling and what is best for the whole. They follow the romantic instinct.
Tucker exploits this, and was trained to do so while working at the CIA (really, he was there for a year before going to media).
 
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