Fascinating analysis of the obesity phenomenon

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This is a nearly book-length multi-part blog series but every part of it is fascinating to read. I recommend you give it a chance even if some of it might contradict what you previously believed.

If you can't be bothered, here's a very simplified summary:

Type of food intake does not cause obesity. The author points out that tribal societies vary massive in diet. There are some that eat 70% carbs, some that eat Western levels of sugar because of fruit and honey diets, many who eat almost nothing but fat, and so on. The obesity rate is basically 1% across all of them.

Carb and sugar consumption tracked with obesity until around 2000, when both began falling even as obesity continued to skyrocket.

Amount of food intake is only weakly associated with obesity. The author cites a study that tried to force feed normal weight people with substantially more food than they normally ate. It ended up requiring hugely more calories than expected to induce even minor weight gain, and after the study ended, almost every participant immediately returned to their previous weight. The author also points out that historically the obesity rate has been 1% across social classes, including classes that should have had more access to food.

Obesity is an entirely contemporary phenomenon. We are used to obesity increasing every year, but it's only really happened since around 1980. The obesity rate slowly increased from 1900 to 1980 and then absolutely exploded beginning in 1980.

A lot of people blame high fructose corn syrup consumption, which also exploded beginning in 1980. However, HFCS consumption also stalled and fell slightly beginning in 2000. Just like sugar and carbs, it's diverged from the obesity trend.

Pets are also becoming more obese. When scientists switch test animals from animal chow to human food with the exact same macronutrient profile, the animals put on a large amount of weight.

Anorexia has also exploded since 1980. The author identifies this as a paradoxical effect -- taking too much of a drug can occasionally cause completely inverted effects to occur.

All of this leads the author to conclude that obesity is primarily caused by chemical contamination. He uses a broken thermostat as an analogy. If the body's fat thermostat is disrupted by chemicals (the author focuses heavily on lithium), it will store more (or less, in the case of anorexia) fat for the same amount of calories.

He brings further evidence to bear for this hypothesis:

Firstly, increase in contaminants tracks obesity better than macronutrient trends.

Secondly, according to historical data, people tended to get less obese as they got older. The inverse is now true. This would be congruous with older people having accumulated more contaminants in their system.

Thirdly, obesity rates on a map track shockingly well with water flows. High-altitude states such as Colorado have lower obesity rates. Low-altitude states such as most of the South have the highest obesity rates. This would be because water is least contaminated at its source and becomes increasingly contaminated as it flows down to its terminus. This trend also holds in China, where water originates in the Tibetan plateau; the western provinces have almost no obesity, while the coasts have rates approaching 20%.

Of course, I already knew that chemical contaminants are responsible for half of modern society's ills (the other half being caused by Jews or both, of course), but this post has convinced me that it's much more important than even diet and nutrition.
 

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A lot of people blame high fructose corn syrup consumption, which also exploded beginning in 1980. However, HFCS consumption also stalled and fell slightly beginning in 2000. Just like sugar and carbs, it's diverged from the obesity trend.
HFCS definitely contributed to the obesity epidemic. Obesity exploded when HFCS replaced sugar in processed foods back in the early 1980s.



But the author is right about total consumption of sugars--it's been pretty much flat since the 1970s.



The fact is, Americans eat a lot more calories today than they did in the 1970s--and more calories equals more obesity-- and those additional calories largely come from grain products and fats and oils. But aside from the increased calories, we know for a fact that grain products have become badly contaminated by glyphosates in the last 50 years, and that probably has something to do with both the obesity epidemic and the diabetes epidemic. Also, a lot of those fats and oils are low-quality fats and oils like canola oil and other highly-processed, toxic vegetable oils. It's entirely likely that those oils have become contaminated by glyphosates and other pesticide contaminants as well.





 

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All of this leads the author to conclude that obesity is primarily caused by chemical contamination. He uses a broken thermostat as an analogy. If the body's fat thermostat is disrupted by chemicals (the author focuses heavily on lithium), it will store more (or less, in the case of anorexia) fat for the same amount of calories.
i'm going to look into this schmos hypothisis this week.

the chemical that skyrocketed into food in last 30 years is glysophates.. it has disrupted our entire micro biome , causes leaky gut and leaky brain.

this greater good, FDA,EPA(captured regulitory agencies) approved chemical is used heavily in the sugar industry!

I'm not sure if UCFS is running cover for the ag chemical cartel? or the many many anti-sugar-ites are running cover for chemical cartel, but Robert Lustig sure makes a compelling case against HFCS.

lithium could explain the lethargy in the electrorate, the docility in the masses allowing to be run roughshod over by globohomoschlomo
 

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I really don't like reading stuff like this you know why? Fat people will use it as an excuse on why they are fat and how it's not their fault but some type of poison in the water/food like Agent Orange. See fat people scour the internet like astronomers scour the universe looking for endless excuses on why they are worthless lard asses and I'm kind of sick of it.

PEOPLE ARE OBESE BECAUSE THEY CANT STOP FUCKING EATING!!! THEY EAT AND EAT AND EAT AND EAT.

I don't need studies or graphs or anything just a shadow a fat person one day and you will see all the evidence you need. Have a fat person live with you all your food will be gone in a day!
 
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Oh no. Stone age Venuses were fat as pigs as were models for Rubens.
Also: I nearly forgot that years ago I'd watch some documentary about Apefrican marriage customs.
Those girls speaking there were all between 17-19yo and all were engaged and slim, even by our standards; husband was chosen by elders. Of course all were FGM'ed in their youth.
Just before marriage she went into hut where grandma was waiting. She spent there next 3 months feasting on animal lard and milk related fats. Put it simply, grandma stuffed her like Thanksgiving turkey.
After that time she fattened up at least 30kg if not more and future husband was in the seventh heaven, because now he will love her properly, how niggers like it.
Niggers. Need fat bitches or their world ends.
 

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I read somewhere that even American animals, both wild and domestic have put on a lot more weight in the last few decades. WTF is going on?
 

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chemical that skyrocketed into food in last 30 years is glysophates.. it has disrupted our entire micro biome , causes leaky gut and leaky brain.
Another extreemly important factor in metabolism alterations and maladaption by western humans is blue light and non native EMF both have gained in abundance in last 30 years.
Mitochondrial disfunction is exacerbated by pulsed weaponry being used on westerners minute by minute.
 

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I really don't like reading stuff like this you know why? Fat people will use it as an excuse on why they are fat and how it's not their fault but some type of poison in the water/food like Agent Orange. See fat people scour the internet like astronomers scour the universe looking for endless excuses on why they are worthless lard asses and I'm kind of sick of it.

PEOPLE ARE OBESE BECAUSE THEY CANT STOP FUCKING EATING!!! THEY EAT AND EAT AND EAT AND EAT.

I don't need studies or graphs or anything just a shadow a fat person one day and you will see all the evidence you need. Have a fat person live with you all your food will be gone in a day!
One single episode of β€œMy 600-lb Life” backs this up. You don’t get to 10,000 calories a day intake without effort, no matter how much poison is in our food.
 

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One single episode of β€œMy 600-lb Life” backs this up. You don’t get to 10,000 calories a day intake without effort, no matter how much poison is in our food.
Ever heard of TOFI?
Thin on outside Fat on inside.

Prolly just as many thin diabetics as fat.

Its mitochondrial disfunction due to toxic Inputs.

Not all diabetics are obese etc...its really a large feild to plow.
 
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HFCS definitely contributed to the obesity epidemic. Obesity exploded when HFCS replaced sugar in processed foods back in the early 1980s.



But the author is right about total consumption of sugars--it's been pretty much flat since the 1970s.



The fact is, Americans eat a lot more calories today than they did in the 1970s--and more calories equals more obesity-- and those additional calories largely come from grain products and fats and oils. But aside from the increased calories, we know for a fact that grain products have become badly contaminated by glyphosates in the last 50 years, and that probably has something to do with both the obesity epidemic and the diabetes epidemic. Also, a lot of those fats and oils are low-quality fats and oils like canola oil and other highly-processed, toxic vegetable oils. It's entirely likely that those oils have become contaminated by glyphosates and other pesticide contaminants as well.





In addition to the huge amount of food is the plain, hard truth that obesity is A MENTAL PROBLEM. I don't care who that offends. Facts are fact.
 

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Tzuyang, a famous Korean mukbang broadcaster, eats absolutely prodigious amounts of food but manages to stay skinny.



Her viewers were worried about her health so she got a full checkup and blood work and she's in perfect health

 
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Dirty electricity and diabetes.

Also recent studies ate suggesting since dirty 'lectric can mess you up, can "regulated" 'lectric fix you?

 

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But the author is right about total consumption of sugars--it's been pretty much flat since the 1970s.

People lie about the fact that scarf down bags of potato chips and boxes of cookies.

Half of fat people also drink beer.

I don't think there's a mystery here. I've seen what fat people eat, and I've seen what non-fat people eat. These people are all exposed to the same chemicals, excluding the ones in the different foods.

People at higher altitudes are going to be healthier for reasons related to pressure. It's why athletes train at high altitudes.
 

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People lie about the fact that scarf down bags of potato chips and boxes of cookies.

Half of fat people also drink beer.

I don't think there's a mystery here. I've seen what fat people eat, and I've seen what non-fat people eat. These people are all exposed to the same chemicals, excluding the ones in the different foods.

People at higher altitudes are going to be healthier for reasons related to pressure. It's why athletes train at high altitudes.
Most processed carbs can't satiate.

It's a jew food trick. A pound of chips isnt same as pound of chicken breast.

Yes we had freewill to eat like a glutton or not at one time...our freedoms including freewill are non existant today!
 

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People lie about the fact that scarf down bags of potato chips and boxes of cookies.

Half of fat people also drink beer.
The Pew study used consumption data from the USDA who has been tracking the aggregate food supply for a long time. Obviously highly aggregated statistics like these are going to have certain kinds of problems but there are some useful insights here IMO


Per-capita, the total number of calories Americans consume is significantly more than 50 years ago so that fact alone explains a lot.

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But IMO there is something more going on here than just total calories. People's metabolisms are getting badly screwed up by something, which is getting reflected in the diabetes epidemic, which is a shockingly big health crisis that most people simply aren't aware of.
 
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The Pew study used consumption data from the USDA who has been tracking the aggregate food supply for a long time. Obviously highly aggregated statistics like these are going to have certain kinds of problems but there are some useful insights here IMO


Per-capita, the total number of calories Americans consume is significantly more than 50 years ago so that fact along explains a lot.

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But IMO there is something more going on here than just total calories. People's metabolisms are getting badly screwed up by something, which is getting reflected in the diabetes epidemic, which is a shockingly big health crisis that most people simply aren't aware of.
Lustig did pediatric obesity work and pediatric diabetic work. His tales are an eye opener.

Warning , Lustig= Jew
 

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The most profound factor for obesity will always be calories taken in versus calories expended.
Which means being physically inactive while consuming more calories than your physical activity dictates.
 

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People lie about the fact that scarf down bags of potato chips and boxes of cookies.

Half of fat people also drink beer.

I don't think there's a mystery here. I've seen what fat people eat, and I've seen what non-fat people eat. These people are all exposed to the same chemicals, excluding the ones in the different foods.

People at higher altitudes are going to be healthier for reasons related to pressure. It's why athletes train at high altitudes.
Nutrition science is bullshit, because it's all self reported, which makes the data worthless.
That's why you get articles about food-cholesterol causing high blood pressure, and at the same time you hear how everyone needs 10lbs of lettuce.
 
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Tzuyang, a famous Korean mukbang broadcaster, eats absolutely prodigious amounts of food but manages to stay skinny.



Her viewers were worried about her health so she got a full checkup and blood work and she's in perfect health

Where is all that food going then? She must take gigantic shits.
 

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The whole mukbang/competitive eating scene always seemed like proof to me that calories in calories out isn't a uniform law.

Not to say it doesn't matter, of course. When someone is fat, I assume it's their fault by default.

But it makes perfect sense to me that the body can naturally regulate fat to some degree just like it can regulate temperature, as long as you don't overwhelm it by eating 4000 calories per day.

I think of it similarly to men becoming more feminized. It's partly the fault of individual men, and I have corresponding contempt for men who expose themselves to feminizing influences, but it's also indisputably true that there are environmental and social contaminants that are moving the middle of the male bell curve toward femininity, so to speak.
 

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Nutrition science is bullshit, because it's all self reported, which makes the data worthless.
Well, in the case of the Pew study I cited above, they didn't use self-reported data. They used aggregated food consumption statistics from the USDA.
 

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The whole mukbang/competitive eating scene always seemed like proof to me that calories in calories out isn't a uniform law.
Tzuyang isn't a competitive eater, she takes her time eating those gigantic meals so she's pacing herself. Her youtube videos are edited down but she'll do livestreams when she's at home and she'll take pauses when she's feeling full. Sometimes it takes a few hours to get through all the food in front of her.
 

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Dammit I read the series, but they're not done. So I am to wait in suspense until the conclusion??
Excellent series though.
 
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