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Dont know why the LgBt community has to be so "binary "on this. And yes that pun was on purpose. I believe both.
This sounds like a libertarian argument. "Don't regulate it. The free market will fix itself."Bad idea. Then you have men hiding their reality so as to not be killed, pretending to be something they are not and passing those traits down to the next generation - most damaging to the gene pool if they are high estrogen and low t. Otherwise they would have removed themselves from the gene pool and left everyone else alone. Of course, if pedophilia is part of their urge that cannot be tolerated - that poisons others who may have otherwise turned out differently.
Another disadvantage to homosexuality being punished by death is then gay men, pretending to be straight men, live double lives and carry out their acts in secret In a way that brings diseases over to the hetero community.
Also, you then have the environment for a danger-thrill fetish, making a taboo-kink much like there has been.
Best solution is don't ask don't tell, except no pedo shit. Had society been this way - and not been full of all the atrazine "it's turning the freaking frogs gay" and other chemicals - it is arguable that homosexuality would have nearly lived itself out of existence by now. Think about it: there would have been no "rebellious" kink drawing people to homosexuality; there would have been no guilted push to allow LGBT culture mainstreaming because of poor Christopher Street blah blah blah, which has surely brought millions into the gay culture who would not have been there otherwise. Likewise, no pressure to marry and have children would mean copies of these people would not be spawned and entering the world. Gay would be on the decline.
all I am saying is that twin studies don't support the idea that it is a case where they are 'born that way', or if I have to be autistic about it, that genetics don't inform sexual preference to the extent that it is predictive, given that there are enough examples of twins who do not share sexual orientation.I don't see how studying twins could prove or disprove something that the etiology of isn't even known.
I don't think that those environments absolutely predict homosexual behavior. I just think that they encourage the likelihood of it. Many in this thread are saying that being sexually abused makes you gay but I don't agree that's necessarily the case. I think that it's far more likely that so-called 'homosexuality' is rather a symptom of wider behavioral and psychological problems rather than a thing in and of itself.I think it was Sigmund Freud that had an inclination to sexualize everything with his Oidipus complex and all. Just because you have a narcissistic mother and absent father, it doesn't mean that you would become homosexual. I believe that many men growing up in such family situations still grow up as hetero.
I think from what I've read the studies there is enough of a disconcordance between monozygotic twins and so-called 'homosexual' activity to make one skeptical of the idea that it's genetics that are responsible.I don't think it is entirely true. Studies of twins separated at birth has shown that if one twin is gay, then the likelihood that the other twin is also gay increases. Not by 100% but significantly.
@Louisa_ReeseThe recent article in the Quarterly Review of Biology has some good points. It does not argue that homosexuality is adaptive, which would be silly. It does not argue for Lamarckian epigenetics, which would also be silly. I should also point out that they’ve given up on sexually antagonistic selection, since the GWAS surveys pretty much rule it out.
They note that variations in hormonal levels before birth don’t seem to cause much trouble, and conclude that humans adjust to those levels – homeostasis, basically. They suggest that this is implemented by epigenetic changes, and that sometimes those epigenetic changes are not properly reset in the next generation. Leaky epigenetics.
Of course, this hardly ever results in funny-looking genitalia – you’d think it would, but then natural selection has made that kind of error rare. Of course, it should have made epigenetic leakage that cause low-fitness behaviors like homosexuality equally rare. Which is the problem with this hypothesis: it rests on the assumption that natural selection in humans has been on a mysterious, all-expenses-paid vacation when it comes to mating. They suggest that maybe sexual behavior have changed since the human-chimp split and therefore there just hasn’t been enough time to thoroughly canalize sexual development in humans.
I guarantee that speech is newer than that. What fraction of people are unable to talk? Gee, being mute is far less frequent than homosexuality, even though speech sure seems more complicated. Why is speechlessness so rare? Speech is damn useful, and natural selection has made failure rare. But it’s not more useful than reproduction its own self.
Rice suggested sexually antagonistic genes, earlier. What fraction of known, common, fitness-reducing syndromes are known to be caused by that? Gee, none of them. What fraction are known to caused by leaky epigenetics? None.
What fraction are known to be caused by infectious organisms? Practically all of them. So you know it can’t be that, right? Life is really a vast murder mystery – it’s always the one you least suspect.
The Emmdees say that when you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras. When explaining homosexuality, people think of pterodactyls and unicorns.
Genetically identical twins can differ in their self-reported sexual orientations. However, whether the twins’ subjective reports reflect valid differences in their sexual orientations is unknown. Measures of sexual orientation, which are free of the limitations of self-report, include genital arousal and pupil dilation while viewing sexual stimuli depicting men or women. We examined these responses in 6 male twin pairs and 9 female twin pairs who reported discordant sexual orientations. Across measures, heterosexual male twins responded more strongly to women than to men. Their homosexual co-twins showed an opposite pattern. Heterosexual female twins responded equally to both sexes, whereas their homosexual co-twins responded somewhat more to women than men. These differences within pairs were similar to differences between unrelated heterosexual and homosexual males and females. Our study provides physiological evidence confirming twins’ discordant sexual orientations, thereby supporting the importance of the non-shared environment for the development of sexual orientation and sexual arousal.
I say Made universally. No way God would willingly make someone's primal urge to be gay. They had to've been conditioned into the act.I say, "both". This would explain the difference between "tops" and "bottoms".
Some people are wired wrong from birth. Examples are some serial killers and incestuous people: you're not supposed to get aroused by dismembering your sexual conquest and you're supposed to be naturally sexually repulsed by members of your immediate family, respectively.
If indeed some fags are simply wired wrong from birth, does that excuse their behavior? Of course not. It no more excuses their behavior than excusing the BTK killer's behavior because he was also wired wrong. Fags are defective, but for differing etiological reasons.
Some might argue that these aberrant behaviors are the result of psychological schisms resulting from abuse, but plenty of people tolerate childhood abuse and don't become psychotic killers or want to fuck their sister or mother. I say that these people respond to the abuse in a different way.
Some feminine -looking fags were probably treated differently during their formative years and attracted the attention of predatory fags (redundant, I know), but plenty of feminine - looking men are straight and happily bag lots of gash from the female attention that they get.
Conversely, macho -looking guys can become notorious fags as evidenced by looking at any "pride" event. Also, plenty of supposedly staright men with families will "come out" at some point and destroy their family unity and happiness because their craving for dick is so strong.
Also, some fags are obviously "created" by fags (since this is the only way that they can reproduce) who sexually abuse boys during their formative years causing psychological damage to the boys.
Therefore I assert that "tops" are the ones wired wrong from birth and "bottoms" are the ones "created" from fag's abuse.
If that is the case, then some should be able to be treated with psychotherapy / pharmacotherapy (the created ones) and the others, not. In the case of the latter, chemical castration would seem the most prudent treatment and / or institutionalization.
I can't explain all dykes (most were obviously the result of sexual abuse) nor can explain nigger, mozelm and jew predisposition to faggotry. I also don't belive that deprivation creates fags, such as in prison -there should be a narural revulsion to another man's anus just like one should be repulsed by the thought of fucking one's mother, no matter how long you're trapped on a desert island with your mom or how long you're in prison.
Prove me wrong.
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That's possible - that God makes things a certain way and Satan (indirectly via fags preying on boys) messes them up, but how to explain all of the other mistakes that occasionally occur in nature like Down syndrome or syndactilism, for example?No way God would willingly make someone's primal urge to be gay.
Well, it’s when a man rams his penis into another man’s anus and uses the anus to masturbate the penis to ejaculation. The man then ejaculates his semen into the other man’s rectum, and the semen mixes in with the feces.
taken from source:Understand – I just want you to understand this, because we hear about gays so often and how beautiful it is to be gay – these are other things that gays do:
- Lick men’s anuses
- Stick their fingers into men’s anuses
- Stick their entire fists into men’s anuses
- Suck on men’s penises
- Eat the semen of men
That is what these people define their identity by – engaging in these actions.
Of course they can - but that's not my question.They can stop doing it,
Most times it’s not as a child, but when they’re pubescent and hormonally confused. This is called “pederasty” instead of pedophilia, which is sexual interest in pre-pubescent children.Almost every faggot has been raped as a child.
I know, I was just making an aside that's all.Of course they can - but that's not my question.
My question is that no matter how deprived of sex that I am, there's never going to be a point in time when I'm aroused by the sight of a man's anus or have any compulsion to suck his cock to climax: it's just not in my genetic code, nor is it in any normal man's genetic code: ther'd be no point in nature to have this occur.
The fact remians that certain men do get aroused by other men's hairy anus and want to suck off other men. Simultaneously, there exist men who submit to being fucked up the ass and blow other men and (I guess) enjoy it because they display no interest in seeking women for sex and procreation.
My question is is this reaction of becoming aroused by the sight of men's asses and penises something that is a mistake in the man's genetic code or is it purely the result of corruption of the man's formative development when young or are there cases of both.
The Decline In Testosterone Is Destroying The Basis Of Masculinity
Masculinity February 6, 2017 140 Comments Roosh
Testosterone levels in men are declining worldwide alongside sperm counts. The hormone that makes men men is disappearing from the human world. As a result, men are becoming more feminine and choosing the paths of weakness, homosexuality, and cuckoldry. While it’s necessary to look at the ideological causes of leftism in men, the biological reasons must not be ignored, and that starts with an understanding of the testosterone crisis.
Cultural programming alone cannot explain why Western men are becoming so womanly and fragile. A man who receives blue pill and feminist propaganda through university education, the media, or entertainment will not fully accept that propaganda unless his biochemistry is compatible to it, in part from having low testosterone. His mind accepts more feminine ideas because he is more feminine. You cannot accept masculine truths if your biology lacks a healthy level of testosterone, the chemical building block of masculinity.
Whether or not you accept my proposition that a man with a low testosterone level is more likely to be receptive to liberal ideas, the facts bear out that testosterone levels are declining every year (alternate link).
Approximately 1 in 4 men have low testosterone, but the scientific bodies that set the numerical standards, particularly the United Nation’s World Health Organization, have a blatant interest in promoting “toxic masculinity” and downplaying the testosterone crisis. This interest is made bare with the execution of an agenda to feminize defenseless boys, their promotion of the world’s most rabid man-haters, and their multi-million dollar sponsorship of vagina-worship through UN Women, which aims to make every man a collared dog of an empowered female office worker.…testosterone concentrations dropped about 1.2% per year, or about 17% overall, from 1987 to 2004. The downward trend was seen in both the population and in individuals over time.
The decline is consistent with other long-term trends in male reproductive health, including decreases in sperm quality and increases in testicular cancer, hypospadias and cryptorchidism.
The strongest association was observed in same-aged men from different sampling years. For example, a 65-year-old in 2002 had lower testosterone levels than a 65-year-old in 1987.
Sperm counts are dropping
The decrease is testosterone is coinciding with a decrease in sperm concentration. A French study showed that they are decreasing 1.9% per year.
Another study points to a worldwide decline.Among a sample of 26 609 partners of totally infertile women undergoing an assisted reproductive technology (ART) procedures in the whole of France over a 17-year period, there was a continuous decrease in semen concentration of about 1.9% per year and a significant decrease in the percentage with morphologically normal forms but no global trend for motility.
Testosterone is declining, sperm counts are declining, men are becoming infertile, and if a walk through my home town of Washington D.C. recently is a reliable indicator, they’re rapidly embracing homosexuality and transsexuality as normal lifestyles to live hopelessly sterile existences that are disconnected from their natural biological role, and one where they vote for feminist politicians like Hillary Clinton that want to usher us all into an androgynous hell where sex differences are eradicated.In 1992, Carlsen et al. reported a large, global decline in sperm count for the period 1938-1990 based on 61 reports of sperm count from different countries around the world during that period. In 1997, Swan et al. reanalyzed the same data set using multivariate statistics. This reanalysis confirmed Carlsen et al., subject to constraints inherent in retrospective longitudinal studies of sperm count.
Sperm counts are getting so bad that the anti-testosterone globalists at the World Health Organization have already lowered the normal standard. Otherwise, perhaps as many as 50% of Western men would be labeled clinically infertile. Imagine the news headline on that story.
Testosterone should not decline in healthy menSperm count, or sperm concentration to avoid confusion with total sperm count, measures the concentration of sperm in a man’s ejaculate, distinguished from total sperm count, which is the sperm count multiplied with volume. Over 15 million sperm per milliliter is considered normal, according to the WHO in 2010. Older definitions state 20 million.
If you believe that testosterone should decrease as you age, you have been taught a falsehood. If you’re healthy, it should remain stubbornly constant, even into your elderly years.
If we can conclude from the above studies that testosterone is declining independent of age, it’s worth investigating the cause. Most of the current science points to endocrine disrupting agents.Handelsman and his team, however, found that serum (blood) testosterone levels did not decline with increasing age in older men who reported being in excellent health with no symptoms to complain of.
“We had originally expected age to have an effect on serum testosterone, so the findings were a bit of a surprise,” Handelsman said.
Endocrine disrupting agents are mostly found in plastic products and cleaning chemicals. Considering that your home is essentially bathed in these agents, and that most of your food is prepared on them, you can see how pernicious this problem is, affecting both boys and men.EDCs are everywhere. They lurk inside your house, leaching from human products such as personal hygiene products, chemical cleansers, or contraceptive drugs. They also end up in your food and drinking water, causing you to unknowingly ingest them.
EDCs pose a threat to men’s health as they interfere with testosterone production, causing men to take on more feminine characteristics.
Here’s one proof: in a number of British rivers, 50 percent of male fish were found to produce eggs in their testes. According to EurekAlert, 3 EDCs have been entering rivers and other waterways through sewage systems for years, altering the biology of male fish. It was also found that fish species affected by EDCs had 76 percent reduction in their reproductive function.
It’s important to know the signs of low testosterone. If you’re being exposed to harmful chemicals, your testosterone will likely see a chronic decrease over several years instead of experiencing a sudden drop that you can perceive. This is why it’s a good idea to get your testosterone level checked right now to establish a baseline count that can be compared to a future reading.Animal and cellular studies have found that some phthalates block the effects of testosterone on the body’s organs and tissues. Researchers set out to examine whether these chemicals, which are widely used in flexible PVC plastics and personal care products, had a similar effect in humans.
“We found evidence reduced levels of circulating testosterone were associated with increased phthalate exposure in several key populations, including boys ages 6-12, and men and women ages 40-60,” said one of the study’s authors, John D. Meeker, MS, ScD, of the University of Michigan School of Public Health in Ann Arbor, MI. “This may have important public health implications, since low testosterone levels in young boys can negatively impact reproductive development, and in middle age can impair sexual function, libido, energy, cognitive function and bone health in men and women.”
One of the most telling clinical symptoms of low testosterone is emotional changes that make you more moody, irritable, and depressed. In other words, having lot T turns you into a menstruating woman. Not only does the physiognomy of a male feminist degenerate into that of a soft, punchable mass of tissue, but he acts more like a woman, too. This is exactly why I believe that the increase in feminine behavior among men in the West is as due to biology as much as to culture. We simply cannot explain the rise of the cuckold through CNN, Hollywood, and universities alone.
The fact that testosterone is declining worldwide, and that it’s contributing to the rise of femininity in men, both in appearance and ideology, tells us that counter-propaganda and spreading red pills will not alone solve society’s leftward march. We can take over all major institutions today, and shower men with the truth, but their biology simply won’t be able to accept it because they have become more like women: cooperative, egalitarian, emotional, and socialist.
The next step we must take is to launch a scientific crusade to test the effects of all commercially used plastics on male testosterone levels, and to enact a ban of their use if a negative effect is found. If we can do it to the pesticide DDT, we can surely do it for any chemical that is destroying the very biological basis of masculinity.
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I think there's plenty of high-T "bears" and other manly fags out there. The (open) fags I've known personally were about evenly split between effeminate and masculine - looking.Declining testosterone levels, one take
Yes.Fags "born that way" or made?