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It may or may not be not become the new Warcraft 3 thing.

Anyways, you probably should get a non-battle.net copy of the original D2 or something just in case it turns out to be the new WC3 scam and they overwrite and destroy the non-HD release.

And don't pre-order, just in case.

 

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My wife was a gamer when I first met her. She still has her Diablo 2 on a CD and she is chomping at the bit to try this new release which will probably also lead her to trying out Diablo IV in the near future.
 

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I already made a thread about this. Also I think most people know Blizzard can't be trusted. I never played the original Warcraft 3 and even I heard about the shitty remaster they made of the game. Blizzard is no longer the old good Blizzard and Activision isn't trustworthy either. No matter how good Vicarious Visions reputation is with past remakes they are still under the control of Blizzard and Activision.
 

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I remember in the early 00s when “pre ordering” became a thing and immediately I just knew it was going to be a bad thing. Pre orders are the reason why content is divvied up and why games are unfinished.
I don't remember hearing about pre-ordering much in the early 2000's and it was unheard of in the 90's. Pre-ordering became a big thing in the mid and late 2000's with the 360, PS3 and Wii. That was back when pre-ordering became popular and you had the "must have game" culture back then. The videos of people standing in long ass lines outside a GameStop started with the PS3 and 360 era of gaming. I remember walking into one of my local game stores the day Vice City was released and I had no issues finding a new copy to buy. This was back in 2002 before the mall that the store was located in was dead or dying I should say.

At least that's when I heard about pre-ordering a lot. I never pre-ordered games till the last few years or so. The first game I ever pre-ordered was in 2018. Of course it was Frontier game so I got a good game out of it. Another I pre-ordered was Doom Eternal, great game. Then I pre-ordered Red Dead 2 and I shouldn't have bothered. It was the PC port of RDR2. It had a rough release for a while.

Must have game culture is pretty much dead now. With digital downloads becoming even more popular with console peasants there really is no point in pre-ordering games. They will not run out of digital games. Pre-ordering is an old throwback from a time when you would walk into your local GameStop or some other game store looking for a game and it would be sold out. You can just download the game now. So yeah, pre-ordering isn't needed anymore. But it's still around and some people still do it.

But I wouldn't say pre-ordering is the reason content is cut from games and released as DLC or why games are released unfinished/in a bad state. Content is cut and used as DLC cause they want to make more money. But the rise of digital downloads plays a role in this as well. But even before that PC games would get things like expansion packs and so on. I don't mind DLC much myself, but cutting content out and releasing it as DLC is a scummy move.

As far as games being released unfinished or full of bugs and glitches I would have to say digital downloading plays a bigger role in that. Technology has advanced to where they can patch games up after release. Even in the 90's if you had internet access you could download patches for games. PC gamers were doing that before people playing on consoles. It's a recent thing for console gamers. If you were playing a game on a console you just had to put up with the bugs and issues or wait for a newer version of the game to be released. But with the console connected to the internet now and people downloading stuff more than ever in the past they can just patch a game on release or after. They don't have to worry about releasing a finished and fully tested game now with all the bugs fixed or at least the worst ones fixed. These days the players are free play testers. Also some games in the past were released with some pretty bad bugs. It's a double edged sword, on one hand your games can get patched now on the other it's caused developers to get lazy and cheap.
 

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I don't remember hearing about pre-ordering much in the early 2000's and it was unheard of in the 90's. Pre-ordering became a big thing in the mid and late 2000's with the 360, PS3 and Wii. That was back when pre-ordering became popular and you had the "must have game" culture back then. The videos of people standing in long ass lines outside a GameStop started with the PS3 and 360 era of gaming. I remember walking into one of my local game stores the day Vice City was released and I had no issues finding a new copy to buy. This was back in 2002 before the mall that the store was located in was dead or dying I should say.

At least that's when I heard about pre-ordering a lot. I never pre-ordered games till the last few years or so. The first game I ever pre-ordered was in 2018. Of course it was Frontier game so I got a good game out of it. Another I pre-ordered was Doom Eternal, great game. Then I pre-ordered Red Dead 2 and I shouldn't have bothered. It was the PC port of RDR2. It had a rough release for a while.

Must have game culture is pretty much dead now. With digital downloads becoming even more popular with console peasants there really is no point in pre-ordering games. They will not run out of digital games. Pre-ordering is an old throwback from a time when you would walk into your local GameStop or some other game store looking for a game and it would be sold out. You can just download the game now. So yeah, pre-ordering isn't needed anymore. But it's still around and some people still do it.

But I wouldn't say pre-ordering is the reason content is cut from games and released as DLC or why games are released unfinished/in a bad state. Content is cut and used as DLC cause they want to make more money. But the rise of digital downloads plays a role in this as well. But even before that PC games would get things like expansion packs and so on. I don't mind DLC much myself, but cutting content out and releasing it as DLC is a scummy move.

As far as games being released unfinished or full of bugs and glitches I would have to say digital downloading plays a bigger role in that. Technology has advanced to where they can patch games up after release. Even in the 90's if you had internet access you could download patches for games. PC gamers were doing that before people playing on consoles. It's a recent thing for console gamers. If you were playing a game on a console you just had to put up with the bugs and issues or wait for a newer version of the game to be released. But with the console connected to the internet now and people downloading stuff more than ever in the past they can just patch a game on release or after. They don't have to worry about releasing a finished and fully tested game now with all the bugs fixed or at least the worst ones fixed. These days the players are free play testers. Also some games in the past were released with some pretty bad bugs. It's a double edged sword, on one hand your games can get patched now on the other it's caused developers to get lazy and cheap.
Funny thing is I remember Vice City as the exact moment preordering became a thing. I remember on release I had to go to 3 different stores to get a copy.
 

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Funny thing is I remember Vice City as the exact moment preordering became a thing. I remember on release I had to go to 3 different stores to get a copy.
Not me. I just walked into Power Gamer which was one of the last small locally owned mom and pop video game stores I knew of in one of the local malls near me and asked for Vice City and they had a bunch in stock. Now this mall was heading towards being a dead mall but it wasn't then. I remember being in that store in 2008 and seeing a bunch people in there in December Christmas shopping.

I don't remember pre-ordering becoming popular till the Wii, PS3 and 360 came on the scene. Some stores allowed you to purchase things like movies and games ahead of time. You could buy it, they would hold it for you and you could pick it up. That's always been around. I didn't do that with Vice City though. But some stores only do first come first serve.

I didn't see people talking about pre-ordering and crazy pre-order bonuses till the PS3 and 360 era of gaming. Hell, I even knew people who would pre-order Wii games.
 
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It may or may not be not become the new Warcraft 3 thing.

Anyways, you probably should get a non-battle.net copy of the original D2 or something just in case it turns out to be the new WC3 scam and they overwrite and destroy the non-HD release.

And don't pre-order, just in case.

Nobody is expecting anything good from this release. They probably will make the necromancer into a tranny, and break the multiplayer.
 
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