Did Yesterday’s Patriot Front March in Chicago Include Covert Federal Government Involvement?

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I don't think they are feds, but I don't see the point of these marches. What's their end game? They should be organizing to take over their local GOP and get involved in state/local politics. We need to be building alternative power structures to the federal government. Triggering libs by doing a fascist march feels good, but it doesn't really go towards the goal of attaining power.
 

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How would they do any of that without some kind of public event?
This question is so stupid it can only be made by a completely atomized individual posting on a web forum. The real question is: how can they do it with a public event? Do you think you can form earnest social networks in your local community as an adjunct of the latest incarnation of the Traditionalist Worker's Party/Nationalist Front? Do you think that you're going to succeed in the halls of local religious, philoanthropic, and commercial networks when it is revealed your allies are Eric Stryker and Kike Enoch?

If marching through the street with a hundred people and garnering national media attention is the best way to network, why do these groups all contain the same couple hundred retards that have been doing this for a decade? If these things actually were a way to grow networks, why don't they have hundreds of thousands of members? Why aren't they electing candidates in real cities? Why don't they even control a basic low level county office, like that of a Sheriff?
 

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I don't think PF has anything to do with those 2 groups or even those types of people
Well, that's the core problem, you just spew things into comments mindlessly with no idea what the facts of it are.

Patriot Front and TRS/NJP have had an unofficial alliance for a while now. According to a documentary from independant media company "media2rise", numerous Patriot Front members including Thomas Rousseau were present at the fifth NJP meeting in July, and there was a giant "Reclaim America" banner hung up on the wall. In the doc, the journalist interviews a Patriot Front member who explains PF's intention to work with the NJP to find "common ground".

Other than the documentary, TRS has been promoting Patriot Front regularly on Telegram and on their shows for months, maybe even longer. I remember Mike Enoch made a Telegram post talking about how them getting chased out of Philadelphia by local Blacks was a resounding success, Striker was simping hard for them after their recent December rally and mocking conservatives for thinking they were feds, and of course they do this at the same time as they attack Nick Fuentes and America First. Patriot Front is pretty clearly at this point aligned with TRS.
 

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Well, that's the core problem, you just spew things into comments mindlessly with no idea what the facts of it are.
Patriot Front and TRS/NJP have had an unofficial alliance for a while now. According to a documentary from independant media company "media2rise", numerous Patriot Front members including Thomas Rousseau were present at the fifth NJP meeting in July, and there was a giant "Reclaim America" banner hung up on the wall. In the doc, the journalist interviews a Patriot Front member who explains PF's intention to work with the NJP to find "common ground".

Other than the documentary, TRS has been promoting Patriot Front regularly on Telegram and on their shows for months, maybe even longer. I remember Mike Enoch made a Telegram post talking about how them getting chased out of Philadelphia by local Blacks was a resounding success, Striker was simping hard for them after their recent December rally and mocking conservatives for thinking they were feds, and of course they do this at the same time as they attack Nick Fuentes and America First. Patriot Front is pretty clearly at this point aligned with TRS.
Oh. Shit.
 

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The real question is: how can they do it with a public event?
For the third time in this thread, it just gets public/media attention and gets their name out there, most people do not spend all day online which is what it takes to find a website like this with all the censorship.

Can't censor real life.


I didn't know they were talking to TRS people before.
 

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For the third time in this thread, it just gets public/media attention and gets their name out there, most people do not spend all day online which is what it takes to find a website like this with all the censorship.

Can't censor real life.
Useful people are not going to join some retard group they hear about in the jewspaper. The way to actually form useful networks is to show up at church, be helpful to the elderly, go around neighborhoods introducing yourself and asking what problems you can help solve, etc. You can quickly become an elected official and have local visibility and be seen as a leader in a matter of a year doing this.

The minute you join one of these retard groups your political ambition is over forever. No community will ever want you around, because to anyone with an ounce of sense anyone who would be involved with this stuff is either a deranged moron or a fed, and any resources or time dedicated to them will be squandered.
 

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Useful people are not going to join some retard group they hear about in the jewspaper. The way to actually form useful networks is to show up at church, be helpful to the elderly, go around neighborhoods introducing yourself and asking what problems you can help solve, etc. You can quickly become an elected official and have local visibility and be seen as a leader in a matter of a year doing this.

The minute you join one of these retard groups your political ambition is over forever. No community will ever want you around, because to anyone with an ounce of sense anyone who would be involved with this stuff is either a deranged moron or a fed, and any resources or time dedicated to them will be squandered.
"go around neighborhoods introducing yourself and asking what problems you can help solve, etc. You can quickly become an elected official and have local visibility and be seen as a leader in a matter of a year doing this."
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I can speak from personal experience that this works, it usually takes a little longer than a year for most people though.

Most people over estimate what they can do in a year and under estimate what they can do in five(move mountains).
 

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I can speak from personal experience that this works, it usually takes a little longer than a year for most people though.
Yes. Ascension time is definitely modulated by charisma and logistical planning ability, but you really can be somebody in as little as a year. Relentlessly contributing to your local community will guarantee it, it is only a matter of time.

Jews run America. Have you ever seen Jews do a public march for Jewish supremacy? The only ethnic grievance marches that were instrumental to their rise to power were the ones they tricked blacks into doing. Do you think marching through the streets airing your ethnic grievances is more likely to land you in the position that the Jews or the blacks have now? What does that say about these goon march leaders? Are they on a path to becoming Charlemagne, or a white Jesse Jackson? Attending these events is cuck shit. You are helping Thomas, Eric, and Mike become the white Al Sharpton at the expense of your own future. Also given the history of white nationalist leaders they are also very likely to try to fuck your wife or girlfriend.
 

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I hope you're right and I'm wrong. I hope it's not a honeytrap. If you're involved with them, run the other way the first time anyone suggests anything illegal.
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The long haired guy in the league of the south photo is Michael Ralph Tubbs, a former green beret and explosives expert. He stole a bunch of explosives from the US military and planned to use them to blow up jewish and black owned properties back in the 90s and was sentenced to 8 years in the feds over it, but he was released after serving four. Other members of the league first told me about him when I used to talk to them on discord, and the SPLC has a biography on him too.


He's definitely not an agent, though it's possible that he is an informant. You would think somebody who stole explosives from the military and planned to use them in a race war would serve more than four years if they refused to snitch.
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Yes. Ascension time is definitely modulated by charisma and logistical planning ability, but you really can be somebody in as little as a year. Relentlessly contributing to your local community will guarantee it, it is only a matter of time.

Jews run America. Have you ever seen Jews do a public march for Jewish supremacy? The only ethnic grievance marches that were instrumental to their rise to power were the ones they tricked blacks into doing. Do you think marching through the streets airing your ethnic grievances is more likely to land you in the position that the Jews or the blacks have now? What does that say about these goon march leaders? Are they on a path to becoming Charlemagne, or a white Jesse Jackson? Attending these events is cuck shit. You are helping Thomas, Eric, and Mike become the white Al Sharpton at the expense of your own future. Also given the history of white nationalist leaders they are also very likely to try to fuck your wife or girlfriend.
Yep,

Even the National socialist in Germany did not start marching in any numbers until after they went in and converted tons of men in beer halls(the social gather places of the working class men at the time).
They did do a march early on trying to take over a city, but a bunch of them got shot and Hitler was thrown in prison.
After that they focused on political power and made deals with rich business owners(funding) to gain power.
 

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@Andrew Anglin hey Master Chief, just out of curiosity, did you heart-eyes that post because as an admin you can read what I wrote before deleting it, or just to be cheeky?

I deleted it out of paranoia, thought it might be TMI. True story though. Undelete it if you want.
 
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He really chopped it down.
Update: Nick did a little livestream this morning analyzing the PF manifesto...
...but it got DDoS’d an hour in!
 

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Update: Nick did a little livestream this morning analyzing the PF manifesto...
...but it got DDoS’d an hour in!
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Alright.

They're guilty.

I still really like the look though.

We need to take it back.
 

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@Andrew Anglin hey Master Chief, just out of curiosity, did you heart-eyes that post because as an admin you can read what I wrote before deleting it, or just to be cheeky?

I deleted it out of paranoia, thought it might be TMI. True story though. Undelete it if you want.
I can't see it, no.

I thought "..." was the post and loved it.
 

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Alright.

They're guilty.

I still really like the look though.

We need to take it back.
Because their manifesto is poorly written??

See this is weird, I'm erring more towards the side that they are a fed operated group now mainly because of the Antifa announcement and the revelation that they've been talking to TRS people. But there's some weird psychological thing going on with me where people claiming other completely retarded things as evidence that they're feds makes me doubt that they are.

I mean we've had:
-They're feds because they look good
-They're feds because they're disciplined
-They're feds because their manifesto is shit and doesn't make sense
-They're feds because they haven't been arrested for tape on their license plates
-They're feds because they do public events (so does Nick)
-They're feds because we don't know who funds them (I think their members pay dues)


Like am I crazy for thinking this shit I listed above is just stupid?

The only way to settle this is going to be for Thomas Rousseau to come on Ralph or Nick's show and explain the organization and defend it from these allegations. If he won't do that then I think it's almost certainly a fed-op.
 

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-They're feds because they do public events (so does Nick)
No, because they're doing ethnic grievance marches. In recent history the public event Nick did was he went to an anti-vax protest, which is not going to ruin your political viability. On the contrary -- it can actually build it in the future. Nothing Nick has ever hosted can be described as a life and career ending. Of course PF hangs out with TRS, TRS are obsessed with getting dissidents to engage in more public ethnic grievance demonstrations. They interact, plan, and promote with literally all groups that engage in them. Meanwhile Nick is meeting at events that normal and mainstream people attend, like GOP conferences and anti-vax protests, none of which are going to get your life ruined. That you can't tell the difference between what Nick is doing and what Patriot Front is and stoop to conflate the two just screams bad faith.
 

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Fuentes and the AF people do events where they announce beforehand that they're going to be there and they're still successfully doing it.
Nick Fuentes and the America First crowd show up at in-person public events and give speeches and show support for things in real life, but you don't accuse them of being feds nor side with the people who accuse them of that. I guess I'm just confused as to what the difference is in your opinion between what PF is doing and what AF is doing.
Nick is hoisting the American flag and a crucifix instead of a fake flag with a fasciae and carrying shields. He’s also speaking clearly with understandable/digestible language and spitting undeniable humor like fire.

There are of course a myriad of differences, but the relatability factor is a huge one.
 

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No, because they're doing ethnic grievance marches. In recent history the public event Nick did was he went to an anti-vax protest, which is not going to ruin your political viability. On the contrary -- it can actually build it in the future. Nothing Nick has ever hosted can be described as a life and career ending. Of course PF hangs out with TRS, TRS are obsessed with getting dissidents to engage in more public ethnic grievance demonstrations. They interact, plan, and promote with literally all groups that engage in them. Meanwhile Nick is meeting at events that normal and mainstream people attend, like GOP conferences and anti-vax protests, none of which are going to get your life ruined. That you can't tell the difference between what Nick is doing and what Patriot Front is and stoop to conflate the two just screams bad faith.
This event was a pro-life protest.
That's possibly more normie friendly than an anti-vax protest.

What do you mean by "ethnic grievance march" and why is it bad? I don't know what that is.
 

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Nick is hoisting the American flag and a crucifix instead of a fake flag with a fasciae and carrying shields. He’s also speaking clearly with understandable/digestible language and spitting undeniable humor like fire.

There are of course a myriad of differences, but the relatability factor is a huge one.
Yeah, that doesn't mean they're feds tho because they look gay. It doesn't mean they're feds because they look cool either. We've got people claiming both.
 
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Yeah, that doesn't mean they're feds tho because they look gay. It doesn't mean they're feds that they look cool either. We've got people claiming both.
The if they are feds? is really beside the point.
The real question is, do these methods work in our present surroundings.
From my personal experience and observations it's a resounding no, at this point.

Nothing better then a real folk community gathering
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lol well look up the words in the dictionary and take a guess at what it means
Okay imma guess it means protesting an issue that negatively affects your ethnic group?
1.) Why does doing that mean they are feds?
2.) How is attending a pro-life protest an "ethnic-grievance march"?
 
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