Are there any countries to move to to avoid covid tyranny?

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I was attacked many months ago when I told people that we need to plan to leave the country. Now I'm seeing this question pop up more and more in the forums. The target of the Luciferians is the group of White Western nations - so there are places to flee to that are off the radar screen.

God has abandoned our country.
I bailed on the US a decade ago and have no interest in going back. If I had lived my life in a small red town or the country I would have stayed (or would have moved to the country or small town if I was young) but as an old guy it made no sense being the new guy in an area where people knew each other all their lives. A little too much isolation at this stage of the game.

I still encounter an occasional middle class or affluent Western white woman and it is never an encouragement to go back. They have to be the least feminine and most arrogant group of women on the planet outside of Africa. This is made worse because American men are submissive to their wives and the women arrange all the social life for middle class men. You see this in the US and in other countries wherever you find American married people or American men married to a foreign woman

However, the tentacles of globohomo are everywhere. The organization and efficiency of white countries make them worse now. The strengths of white cultures are now their Achilles heel.

In brown countries there tends to be too much inefficiency and corruption for the police to spend time arresting grandmothers for not wearing a mask. What is in it for them? And forget about complex thought crime and tracking databases. Unfortunately though brown countries tend to copy white countries so we shall see.

In Asia, and I have heard in Costa Rica, societies still tend to be geared more for the pleasure of men rather than women like in the US. It is enlightening to spend some time in a somewhat patriarchal society. It makes it hard to go back to a western matriarchal one.

If you want to go to a white society I would pick an Eastern European one that didn't go too crazy with Covid. Unfortunately that makes Hungary a question mark. They are one of the most aware about globohomo but Orban, like Dueterte, went nuts with Covid. Dueterte is the worst though
 

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I don’t know why us people don’t talk about this more often. I wish we could decide on a country and move there. Whatever money we have would go a long way in places like Central America. And we would have our group to hang out with. There are people who live there and spend under $2000 a month. The US has nothing I desire. I don’t care for the government, the people, the women, the food, the sports. Nothing. I spend half of my waking moments at my job which totally sucks. I think we would have peace of mind elsewhere. We would always be outsiders yes but at least we would not be considered an evil enemy by the government and media like in the US. They are gonna come for us soon so we will be forced out anyway. Anybody else feel this way? I’m seriously considering leaving the US within 2 years. Just saving more money now. And I just found out my home’s market value took a huge dip.
 

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Well I was really happy reading this thread's title thinking we'd get the answers we need.
But nope, multiple non-serious and larp answers ruined the first page, which sets the tone for future responses to also be trash.
Thankfully some of you guys made serious contributions but we're still stuck at: what do we even do, where do we go?
Eventually I'll make a thread with all the research I've done so far, with the hope that it will save you all some time and create a massive and serious discussion for people considering escape. Like, really guys.

We are looking at being killed this fall.

These cute larp answers and the "ILL NEVER LEAVE, STAND AND FITE, DEATH B4 DISHONUR" answers are beyond retarded.
I just about guarantee they won't, firstly, but also, not everyone is going to die for inexplicable 'philosophical' reasons like that.
In what way does saying "yeah they're coming to kill me, but like, dude, running is for pussies man" and then getting shot dead or dragged out of your house at 3am by a van full of SWAT make sense?
Why would you just let them do that to you?
You could fight them a million times but there is no situation in which you will fight the swat and win. Ever. They have body armor, armored vehicles, military grade weapons, explosives, helicopters, drones, cameras on every doorbell and streetcorner, they can track your phone, anything you do on the internet, and they have informants (and regular covid snitches) everywhere.

The only way you 'win' is to not end up in that situation in the first place.

Leaving to a place where the government does not enforce mRNA vax tyranny seems like the only realistic option, especially if you look at the long term.

Finding no answers whatsoever is frustrating beyond belief.

Topics to think about in the meantime...
Working abroad:
Language difficulty (learning it to fluent level),
can you get by with only English?
cost of living and average salaries,
do they hire English teachers?
Mandatory vax status,
Vax passport required?
Is their tracking malicious (China) and/or are you comfortable with it?
requirements for visa and residence,
what is the basic culture and attitude?
do they like Westerners?
what rights do citizens have?
can you own firearms?
can you buy a house and have a family?
can you get along with the natives and will they get along with you?
what jobs are in demand?
what are they like politically?
what are they like religiously?
is the food affordable and healthy enough?
What careers from your country can transfer to a foreign country?
Is the country corrupt enough that you will have problems?
Do you have enough money to move? Flight, downpayment on rent, required licenses, transit pass.

Plenty more to think about I'm sure, but this is what I've got on my mind.
Start collecting information so we can put together a clear picture of what exactly we can do, where we can go.

@MindRiot @TheBoom @Gastonboucher

I hope you don't mind that I tagged you guys, you seem to be interested in actual answers.
 

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I was not trying to troll the post. I honestly do not see where you think you will be able to run to. You might find a place that is not doing it at the same time as the US, but they probably will be doing it soon. Rural areas do not have swat teams, there are no swat teams in national or state parks.

I am in China and they, so far, have not gone over the edge and mandated anyone get the vax. People who have vaxxed also do not seem to be getting the message of hating those that have not (I have only received that from my coworkers from Western countries). My boss is livid at the moment. There could easily come the moment when the govt here opens the flood gates though and says all people must be vaxxed out.

It is kind of a catch 22, here I am not being required to do it (at the moment) but pressured to do it. If it comes to requiring me to do it I have nowhere to run to in this country. If I was in the US, I would be facing the same pressure and open rhetoric about mandates, but I would be on my home turf and know where I could lay low.

I mean, if the goal is to get away into somewhere you can pay people off to leave you alone, why not Mexico? The problem with paying people off though is it is no guarantee that a day-week-month later they will not come back for you, either wanting more money for you to avoid what you do not want or simply forcing what you do not want on you.

Again, not trying to dump on your thread. It is probably something a lot of us have thought about.
 

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But nope, multiple non-serious and larp answers ruined the first page, which sets the tone for future responses to also be trash.
On GU?

Surely you jest!
 

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In the absence of any solid ideas on locations as yet here are some tales that demonstrate means by which the vaxx passport shit can can be subverted.

Completely false version...


Real one obtained without jab...


Got feelers out for a similar scenario in London. Nothing to report as yet but I'm thinking it's only a matter of time. After all France is a first world country too.

I was conversing with an Albanian who's not having the jab and she told me that while the government is paying lip service on the ground no one is bothering with it back there.

Plus they're white.
 
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It depends on your money situation, job skills, who you are taking with you (like family). It depends on your passports. Multiple passports allow you to go back and forth between the passport countries where others are denied. An EU passport will allow you to go from the UK to the Continent, for example.

If you have nothing but your native English you may be able to go to China and teach. You need a degree, most probably, and a TEFL certificate you can get from an online course for $20. The Chinese vaxx is probably harmless, and you don't yet have to take it. China is going to be a great option for a lot of people, so long as they don't nuke it.

You can get a boat pretty cheap. That can be one way to stay off the radar, depending on where you go. Barges/canal boats allow you to use the canal network. There are canals all over the UK and through Europe. You can get to the black sea that way. You can go all the way through France to the med.

You can try to reach the secret Nazi base in Antarctica..


Sea going boats give you more flexibility. You can lay offshore in a jurisdiction which isn't too intrusive. You can move around if there is trouble.

As some have mentioned above, there are about five countries, including Albania, where you can easily go with just a Covid test or even no Covid test. The trouble is figuring out how to sustain yourself when you get there. There are millions of people trying to figure out how to make a living online.
 

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Well I was really happy reading this thread's title thinking we'd get the answers we need.
But nope, multiple non-serious and larp answers ruined the first page, which sets the tone for future responses to also be trash.
Thankfully some of you guys made serious contributions but we're still stuck at: what do we even do, where do we go?
Eventually I'll make a thread with all the research I've done so far, with the hope that it will save you all some time and create a massive and serious discussion for people considering escape. Like, really guys.

We are looking at being killed this fall.

These cute larp answers and the "ILL NEVER LEAVE, STAND AND FITE, DEATH B4 DISHONUR" answers are beyond retarded.
I just about guarantee they won't, firstly, but also, not everyone is going to die for inexplicable 'philosophical' reasons like that.
In what way does saying "yeah they're coming to kill me, but like, dude, running is for pussies man" and then getting shot dead or dragged out of your house at 3am by a van full of SWAT make sense?
Why would you just let them do that to you?
You could fight them a million times but there is no situation in which you will fight the swat and win. Ever. They have body armor, armored vehicles, military grade weapons, explosives, helicopters, drones, cameras on every doorbell and streetcorner, they can track your phone, anything you do on the internet, and they have informants (and regular covid snitches) everywhere.

The only way you 'win' is to not end up in that situation in the first place.

Leaving to a place where the government does not enforce mRNA vax tyranny seems like the only realistic option, especially if you look at the long term.

Finding no answers whatsoever is frustrating beyond belief.

Topics to think about in the meantime...
Working abroad:
Language difficulty (learning it to fluent level),
can you get by with only English?
cost of living and average salaries,
do they hire English teachers?
Mandatory vax status,
Vax passport required?
Is their tracking malicious (China) and/or are you comfortable with it?
requirements for visa and residence,
what is the basic culture and attitude?
do they like Westerners?
what rights do citizens have?
can you own firearms?
can you buy a house and have a family?
can you get along with the natives and will they get along with you?
what jobs are in demand?
what are they like politically?
what are they like religiously?
is the food affordable and healthy enough?
What careers from your country can transfer to a foreign country?
Is the country corrupt enough that you will have problems?
Do you have enough money to move? Flight, downpayment on rent, required licenses, transit pass.

Plenty more to think about I'm sure, but this is what I've got on my mind.
Start collecting information so we can put together a clear picture of what exactly we can do, where we can go.

@MindRiot @TheBoom @Gastonboucher

I hope you don't mind that I tagged you guys, you seem to be interested in actual answers.
Thanks for the tag. Glad you’re interested in talking about this. The last few days it really hit me that the US is gonna get real chaotic real quick. To answer some of your questions. For Central America I could learn Spanish, at least enough to have a conversation. There are some good apps for learning languages. Cost of living in certain areas of Costa Rica is cheap right now. I know of a couple that lives off of just their social security. If you live in the Central Valley (3000 feet above sea level)it’s moderate. I’ve heard you don’t need to use air conditioning or heat much there. I believe you can work while you’re applying for residency. I know someone who got residency there in less than 2 years but she had a lawyer helping her. She helps people book hiking and other adventures. Costa Ricans are laid back. Not much violence but theft is an issue. Just gotta watch your stuff.

I don’t know if you can own a firearm. And most people rent places. Heard a horror story about a guy who bought a place in CR. People were tapping into his energy source and one night during a storm all of his machines blew. I’ve heard it’s hard to get rid of places when you’re looking to sell. Politically they’re moderate. There are plenty of Christian churches. There is a church there run by a bunch of ex pats. I know an American there who got married to a tica there and they have two kids. I met them. Nice woman and kids were friendly. He speaks Spanish fluently. He owns a business there.

Food is good. Fish is great. They have Argentinian and Brazilian steakhouses. I don’t know about the political corruption . I don’t see us being affected if we follow their guidelines. Another thing is you don’t even have to get residency. Just drive to Nicaragua every 90 days get passport stamped come right back in. A few guys I know down there own fishing businesses. I believe you can own a business but you can’t work a regular job unless you’re a citizen or in the process.

I believe financially I can do it by what the prices are now. You can rent a place for $300 in certain places. I have some money put away. Much more to talk about but that’s most of what I know. You would get on their public health care plan but there are private doctors that are still not as expensive as American healthcare.

I should also say that Costa Rica made same sex marriage legal in 2020. And I believe they’re lobbying for trannies to get free gender surgery. So schlomo is definitely getting his hooks in down there.
 

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If you have nothing but your native English you may be able to go to China and teach. You need a degree, most probably, and a TEFL certificate you can get from an online course for $20. The Chinese vaxx is probably harmless, and you don't yet have to take it. China is going to be a great option for a lot of people, so long as they don't nuke it.
People coming into China do need to show proof of vax, fake proof might work. If you are already here, like me, you can still refuse for now, but if I leave I need to vax before I return.
 

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If you want to go to a white society I would pick an Eastern European one that didn't go too crazy with Covid.

I believe that the only one that hasn't gone full-blown-triple-anal with the covid histeria has been Belarus. They were just told to drink vodka because it would protect them and then they just went right back to living a normal life.
 

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If I was to flee, I'd head to the Lesser Antilles (small islands of the Caribbean) in a live-aboard boat, or otherwise somewhere the people don't take things too seriously. I'm r1d3 0r d13 rural American, though.
 

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" r1d3 0r d13" sounds like a cool name for a new covid strain
 

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People coming into China do need to show proof of vax, fake proof might work. If you are already here, like me, you can still refuse for now, but if I leave I need to vax before I return.
If I had to take a Vax, I would go with the Chinese one, Sinovac, anyway since it is a standard vaccine and not a weird lab experiment even if it has some side effects and doesn't seem all that effective.
 

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I believe that the only one that hasn't gone full-blown-triple-anal with the covid histeria has been Belarus. They were just told to drink vodka because it would protect them and then they just went right back to living a normal life.
Someone who is living in the Ukraine said it is pretty much normal life there too but you do have to have a test to get in.
 

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Leaving to a place where the government does not enforce mRNA vax tyranny seems like the only realistic option, especially if you look at the long term.
Yes - exactly.

Regarding details - everybody has to do their own research or you could start a thread and just start posting information. It's really not complicated - if you can get along with people and aren't a puss_ (panic if you can't get your Starbucks Latte with low-fat creamer), then you will do fine no matter where you are at.

1. There are American and Brit expat communities in every country. Find them and talk with them - they will give you the lay of the land.

2. Cell phone translator apps will help you with the language issues. I lived and traveled in many countries before these kinds of things were available and I had no problem. I'd have a language book and would make attempts to talk with locals - they loved that I was trying and many of them spoke passable or good English.

3. Believe it or not, Americans are held in high regard in most places - so sometimes you'll find you get preferential treatment over the locals (like in hospitals, etc.). This isn't a "just" situation but my point is that people will tend to want to help you out.

4. Do your research - don't be lazy and expect others to generate a complete guide for where you should go and all of the preparations involved.
 

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I believe that the only one that hasn't gone full-blown-triple-anal with the covid histeria has been Belarus. They were just told to drink vodka because it would protect them and then they just went right back to living a normal life.
Yes - my only worry with countries like this is when Globo-Homo-Schlomo forces out the leader (e.g., the leader "dies in his sleep") they replace him with one of their own and things change overnight.
 

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People coming into China do need to show proof of vax, fake proof might work. If you are already here, like me, you can still refuse for now, but if I leave I need to vax before I return.
The Chinese Embassy in London have been giving out the Chinese jab.
 

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People coming into China do need to show proof of vax, fake proof might work. If you are already here, like me, you can still refuse for now, but if I leave I need to vax before I return.
They will accept people who never had the vax if they can show they were infected. So, it seems like you can deliberately get infected (easy to manage if you volunteer at a hospital), and then get a certificate of the same.

Info from the London embassy:


Passengers who have a COVID-19 infection record refer to those who

1. have been diagnosed with Covid-19 by a medical institution, or

2. have a positive test record of PCR, IgM or IgG antibody test (not including positive test result due to vaccination), though never diagnosed with Covid-19 by a medical institution.
 

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Topics to think about in the meantime...
Working abroad:
Language difficulty (learning it to fluent level),
can you get by with only English?
cost of living and average salaries,
do they hire English teachers?
Mandatory vax status,
Vax passport required?
Is their tracking malicious (China) and/or are you comfortable with it?
requirements for visa and residence,
what is the basic culture and attitude?
do they like Westerners?
what rights do citizens have?
can you own firearms?
can you buy a house and have a family?
can you get along with the natives and will they get along with you?
what jobs are in demand?
what are they like politically?
what are they like religiously?
is the food affordable and healthy enough?
What careers from your country can transfer to a foreign country?
Is the country corrupt enough that you will have problems?
Do you have enough money to move? Flight, downpayment on rent, required licenses, transit pass.
.
Those are good questions and those plus some more should be considered before you live outside of the country.

Moving outside of the United States is very appealing to a lot of people right now But unless you are retired, can work remotely, are a digital nomad or just want to get out of the US and have enough money to hunker down for a few years to see what the new normal ends up looking like, there are a lot of roadblocks.

Outside of English teacher, international school teacher, tech, oil industry, NGO and, in some places, finance, it is hard to get work in other countries during this time. In Eastern European countries it is hard to find work if you aren't from the EU.

Being an English teacher has been the easy way for most to get outside of the US. Unfortunately the countries where it is best to do that in terms of job availability and pay - China, Vietnam (the best for saving money but they have gone Covid crazy), South Korea and Taiwan - all have strict Covid requirements right now. If I was going to pick from any of those, I would probably pick China because China is China so other opportunities might present themselves beyond teaching English and Chinese tell me that in most of China things are relatively normal. I was just told that masks are not mandatory in Beijing for example. True? I don't know but there is no way China is going to destroy its economy over the flu.

Another option for teaching English is do online teaching. It is growing and lockdowns favor it plus you get a lot more flexibility in where your live.

For English teaching check out the forum on this site


Step up from English teaching is having a teaching degree and working at an international school. These can pay well, provide accommodation and free meals at the school allowing you to save almost all your salary. Bad news is that a lot of these schools don't have good working conditions. Good news is that an online degree will do and you can get that while you make money teaching English. To learn more about this field check out this site


A more lucrative way to go is working in the oil and gas industries. I know men who have done that, were able to retire in their 40s. Trick is that your are out on an oil platform for up to 6 months. Then though you get up to 6 months to live wherever you want including a small US Town free from vibrancy but without a lot of good jobs. You might also be able to transition back to working in the US too in a place like South Dakota. Great thing I am told about this field is that the skills needed and Safety issues if you fuck up don't lend themselves to the company hiring cheap labor. White men say they are valued here. If I was young I would seriously consider this.

If I was going to hunker down then wanted to buy a home or start a traditional business I would consider Costa Rica or Mexico or, possibly, the Dominican Republic. Mexico deserves most of the bad rap it gets but the president, AMLO, is a populist who didn't want to destroy people's lives over the flu. Americans can own homes and businesses in both countries. Latin countries have more crime and incompetency than Eastern Asia but are more open to foreigners. Mexico murder rates for Americans are about the same as the USA once vibrant in the USA are taken out of the statistics. So if you stay away from cartel areas you should be OK. However I world not buy a home or start a business until I had lived there long enough to learn the language, understand how things are done and have a few connections.

If you are in tech or certain financial areas jobs are growing remotely. Honk Kong, for example, is looking for a lot of remote tech workers right now because it is too hard for foreigners to move there.

If you are retired like me, the best places right now are probably Costa Rica, Dominican Republic and Mexico and if you don't mind a quarantine Thailand until you see what happens. I am in Thailand and I like it but you need to quarantine first. If you stay out of Bangkok and go to a smaller town you should have a nice life. I live in one by the sea with around 50000 people and can workout, ride my bike, swim, go to the beach and hang around coffee shops.

As far a guns, I know the Czech Republic encourages private gun ownership but once you move away from blacks (and Central Latin countries such as El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala) you will find that your need for guns for personal safety plummets. In Eastern Asia violent crime pretty much isn't a thing. As a foreigner, if you stay out of politics and crime you won't have to worry about their version of the FBI doing a Ruby Ridge on you either.

There are a lot more issues but hope this helps
 
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An in-between option is US territories. English is prevalent, there is some cultural familiarity, brown dysfunction makes the worst of the system hard to pull off.

I view it as a bit of a preview of post-America.
 

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Those are good questions and those plus some more should be considered before you live outside of the country.

Moving outside of the United States is very appealing to a lot of people right now But unless you are retired, can work remotely, are a digital nomad or just want to get out of the US and have enough money to hunker down for a few years to see what the new normal ends up looking like, there are a lot of roadblocks.

Outside of English teacher, international school teacher, tech, oil industry, NGO and, in some places, finance, it is hard to get work in other countries during this time. In Eastern European countries it is hard to find work if you aren't from the EU.

Being an English teacher has been the easy way for most to get outside of the US. Unfortunately the countries where it is best to do that in terms of job availability and pay - China, Vietnam (the best for saving money but they have gone Covid crazy), South Korea and Taiwan - all have strict Covid requirements right now. If I was going to pick from any of those, I would probably pick China because China is China so other opportunities might present themselves beyond teaching English and Chinese tell me that in most of China things are relatively normal. I was just told that masks are not mandatory in Beijing for example. True? I don't know but there is no way China is going to destroy its economy over the flu.

Another option for teaching English is do online teaching. It is growing and lockdowns favor it plus you get a lot more flexibility in where your live.

For English teaching check out the forum on this site


Step up from English teaching is having a teaching degree and working at an international school. These can pay well, provide accommodation and free meals at the school allowing you to save almost all your salary. Bad news is that a lot of these schools don't have good working conditions. Good news is that an online degree will do and you can get that while you make money teaching English. To learn more about this field check out this site


A more lucrative way to go is working in the oil and gas industries. I know men who have done that, were able to retire in their 40s. Trick is that your are out on an oil platform for up to 6 months. Then though you get up to 6 months to live wherever you want including a small US Town free from vibrancy but without a lot of good jobs. You might also be able to transition back to working in the US too in a place like South Dakota. Great thing I am told about this field is that the skills needed and Safety issues if you fuck up don't lend themselves to the company hiring cheap labor. White men say they are valued here. If I was young I would seriously consider this.

If I was going to hunker down then wanted to buy a home or start a traditional business I would consider Costa Rica or Mexico or, possibly, the Dominican Republic. Mexico deserves most of the bad rap it gets but the president, AMLO, is a populist who didn't want to destroy people's lives over the flu. Americans can own homes and businesses in both countries. Latin countries have more crime and incompetency than Eastern Asia but are more open to foreigners. Mexico murder rates for Americans are about the same as the USA once vibrant in the USA are taken out of the statistics. So if you stay away from cartel areas you should be OK. However I world not buy a home or start a business until I had lived there long enough to learn the language, understand how things are done and have a few connections.

If you are in tech or certain financial areas jobs are growing remotely. Honk Kong, for example, is looking for a lot of remote tech workers right now because it is too hard for foreigners to move there.

If you are retired like me, the best places right now are probably Costa Rica, Dominican Republic and Mexico and if you don't mind a quarantine Thailand until you see what happens. I am in Thailand and I like it but you need to quarantine first. If you stay out of Bangkok and go to a smaller town you should have a nice life. I live in one by the sea with around 50000 people and can workout, ride my bike, swim, go to the beach and hang around coffee shops.

As far a guns, I know the Czech Republic encourages private gun ownership but once you move away from blacks (and Central Latin countries such as El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala) you will find that your need for guns for personal safety plummets. In Eastern Asia violent crime pretty much isn't a thing. As a foreigner, if you stay out of politics and crime you won't have to worry about their version of the FBI doing a Ruby Ridge on you either.

There are a lot more issues but hope this helps
Excellent summary - thank you.
 
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