Any good advice or references about a compromise vaccination schedule?

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Asking for a friend whose husband is adamantly pro-vax. So much so, that non-vax might lead to divorce. Is there a safer way to comply? I have only found all or nothing advice out there. I'm talking about the infant vaccination schedule. Two month check up coming and friend is distraught. I suggested ramping up vit C it's not real clear if much extra gets passed on through breast milk.
 

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I hope your friend finds an amenable solution. This is an excellent example of the sort of thing that should be agreed upon before marriage.
Understand. Mr. Friend is otherwise Mr. Perfect and the pickings are slim out there.
 

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Honestly my children are unvaccinated so I can’t in good conscience advise anything other than sticking to her guns and not vaccinating the child. If something horrible happened to the baby due to the vaccines, she would never forgive herself for acquiescing to his demands.

Why is this dude so pro vax? Does he not have any intellectual curiosity and has he not read all the literature showing how bad they are?
 

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Bribe the nurse who’s going to physically give the shot. At least that’s my plan for myself, should it come down to the vaccine being a necessity to live my life and work. I’ll eventually find one who will accept it.
 

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They're vaxxing babies at two months now? Holy shit.
Babies get their immunities from the mothers milk. Also from the birth canal during natural birth.
The movie 1986: The Act has a sort of strong, inquiring Woman vibe to it. If the guy is easily vaxxed then maybe he would be impressionable enough to get something out of it.
Invoke King JLP: God over Man. Man over Woman. Woman over Children.
 

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Honestly my children are unvaccinated so I can’t in good conscience advise anything other than sticking to her guns and not vaccinating the child. If something horrible happened to the baby due to the vaccines, she would never forgive herself for acquiescing to his demands.

Why is this dude so pro vax? Does he not have any intellectual curiosity and has he not read all the literature showing how bad they are?
Mr Perfect went to Prestige University and studied physics. He has some illusions about the beauty and untarnished integrity of Science. His naivety is touching and invincible, apparently.
 
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Honestly my children are unvaccinated so I can’t in good conscience advise anything other than sticking to her guns and not vaccinating the child. If something horrible happened to the baby due to the vaccines, she would never forgive herself for acquiescing to his demands.

Why is this dude so pro vax? Does he not have any intellectual curiosity and has he not read all the literature showing how bad they are?
Can you recommend something that might look like Science. A lot of it looks like sad stories, anecdotal evidence, and doesn't stack up in the normie mind against the FDA seal of approval. I myself have never looked at the issue. My children were raised before the schedule ramped up. I know studies take money and the money is all on one side.

Think of how brainwashing works: it thwarts curiosity because, if you even start down that road you are a Bad Person. Mr Perfect's mother was discussing someone not Covid vaxxed and called that one an "Anti-vaxxer", her voice dripping with contempt.
 

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Can you recommend something that might look like Science. A lot of it looks like sad stories, anecdotal evidence, and doesn't stack up in the normie mind against the FDA seal of approval. I myself have never looked at the issue. My children were raised before the schedule ramped up. I know studies take money and the money is all on one side.

Think of how brainwashing works: it thwarts curiosity because, if you even start down that road you are a Bad Person. Mr Perfect's mother was discussing someone not Covid vaxxed and called that one an "Anti-vaxxer", her voice dripping with contempt.
Here’s two off the top of my head

Childrenshealthdefense.org

Vaccineresistancemovement.org

I have a bunch of images too but I’ll have to dig for them. Just of charts and graphs and whatnot. Sorry I didn’t make them clickable, my posting rig is on its last legs 🙄

It’s hard for me because I’ve always been a “bad person” so I honestly have trouble understanding normies and their desire to NOT seek out all sources and forms of information, especially when it comes to their children. I really do hope for the best for your friend. Why did she end up with this jackass anyway?

Personally another thing I bring up to “SCIENCEEE!!” assholes is medical malpractice. I ask them how many lawyer commercials they see in an average day of tv watching, imploring people to sue over dangerous medications, and procedures. I ask them how their experiences with the medical industry has gone. Most people have routinely shitty interactions with medical providers/crappy care. I ask them if they know that medical mistakes are the third leading cause of death for Americans. Once I have informed them I then ask if they trust this industry with their children’s health, especially when pediatric practices get large bonuses for having all of their patients “fully vaccinated”.

I also like to mention my own anecdotal stories with the pediatricians and hospital workers regarding vaccines and my children. The badgering and harassment over fucking vaccines, one time when my child was being admitted for pneumonia, is beyond comprehension. Not to mention them flat out lying and trying to tell me that one of my children’s recurrent health issues was because they aren’t vaccinated. Never mind that they don’t even offer a vaccine for those issues and I know multiple fully vaccinated children that attend school with mine, that have the same issue!

The lying and bullshit by the medical industry is obvious to anyone paying attention. I hope Mr Know it all is willing to listen but many people have their entire identity wrapped up in this “good person” nonsense. It’s a real shame.
 

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It’s hard for me because I’ve always been a “bad person” so I honestly have trouble understanding normies and their desire to NOT seek out all sources and forms of information, especially when it comes to their children. I really do hope for the best for your friend. Why did she end up with this jackass anyway?
My take is that 60 years of atheism didn't undo thousands of years of religiosity.

People didn't stop being religious. 99% of normies have never consciously practiced the scientific method. They can't even explain it to you. They simply believe ScIeNCe.

In other words, they replaced the priest for the TV pundit, lab coat goblin and the holy p value.
 

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It’s hard for me because I’ve always been a “bad person” so I honestly have trouble understanding normies and their desire to NOT seek out all sources and forms of information, especially when it comes to their children.
Because they trust conventional authority, and are only exposed to normie news. What else are they to think? There's no mystery about it.

edit: huh, just noticed my new badge. Isn't a "failed loser" a winner?
 
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Here's a good comprehensive site, very professional https://www.nvic.org/

This site https://www.greenmedinfo.com/ has a library of abstracts that include the journal citations of all the papers it lists, which Mr. Science can peruse. You can do a search on a topic of interest and it will list the related papers. They also have good original articles.
(The full papers of course are paid access only, but I'll bet he has university credentials so he can access the full text through his university account if he so wishes.)
Here's some good information from the Weston A Price foundation - I haven't looked through them for some time but if you follow the links I'm sure you will come across some good info. They have some recommendations for delaying shots as well, if worst comes to worst.

At the very least if the wife can persuade him to wait, there is no harm in waiting at least until one year old. The baby's immune system does not start to mature until then anyways so the vaccines are pointless before that time. I don't even understand how medicine can claim on one had that you should vaccinate a two month old baby, but then at the same time explain that the baby gets antibodies through breast milk, becasue he doesn't make his own at that age. It's schizophrenic at best, and evil at its most realistic (but no need to mention that to Mr. Science) Hopefully by that time the wife can gather enough evidence to seriously introduce some doubt into Mr. Science's worldview and save that precious white baby form the clutches of the system.
 
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Here’s two off the top of my head

Childrenshealthdefense.org

Vaccineresistancemovement.org

I have a bunch of images too but I’ll have to dig for them. Just of charts and graphs and whatnot. Sorry I didn’t make them clickable, my posting rig is on its last legs 🙄

It’s hard for me because I’ve always been a “bad person” so I honestly have trouble understanding normies and their desire to NOT seek out all sources and forms of information, especially when it comes to their children. I really do hope for the best for your friend. Why did she end up with this jackass anyway?

Personally another thing I bring up to “SCIENCEEE!!” assholes is medical malpractice. I ask them how many lawyer commercials they see in an average day of tv watching, imploring people to sue over dangerous medications, and procedures. I ask them how their experiences with the medical industry has gone. Most people have routinely shitty interactions with medical providers/crappy care. I ask them if they know that medical mistakes are the third leading cause of death for Americans. Once I have informed them I then ask if they trust this industry with their children’s health, especially when pediatric practices get large bonuses for having all of their patients “fully vaccinated”.

I also like to mention my own anecdotal stories with the pediatricians and hospital workers regarding vaccines and my children. The badgering and harassment over fucking vaccines, one time when my child was being admitted for pneumonia, is beyond comprehension. Not to mention them flat out lying and trying to tell me that one of my children’s recurrent health issues was because they aren’t vaccinated. Never mind that they don’t even offer a vaccine for those issues and I know multiple fully vaccinated children that attend school with mine, that have the same issue!

The lying and bullshit by the medical industry is obvious to anyone paying attention. I hope Mr Know it all is willing to listen but many people have their entire identity wrapped up in this “good person” nonsense. It’s a real shame.
Those are good questions for opening people's minds. I was looking at the childrenshealthdefense website today; I'll check the other one tomorrow.
 

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Here's a good comprehensive site, very professional https://www.nvic.org/

This site https://www.greenmedinfo.com/ has a library of abstracts that include the journal citations of all the papers it lists, which Mr. Science can peruse. You can do a search on a topic of interest and it will list the related papers. They also have good original articles.
(The full papers of course are paid access only, but I'll bet he has university credentials so he can access the full text through his university account if he so wishes.)
Here's some good information form the Weston A Price foundation - I haven't looked through them for some time but if you follow the links I'm sure you will come across some good info. They have some recommendations for delaying shots as well, if worst comes to worst.

At the very least if the wife can persuade him to wait, there is no harm in waiting at least until one year old. The baby's immune system does not start to mature until then anyways so the vaccines are pointless before that time. I don't even understand how medicine can claim on one had that you should vaccinate a two month old baby, but then at the same time explain that the baby gets antibodies through breast milk, becasue he doesn't make his own at that age. It's schizophrenic at best, and evil at its most realistic (but no need to mention that to Mr. Science) Hopefully by that time the wife can gather enough evidence to seriously introduce some doubt into Mr. Science's worldview and save that precious white baby form the clutches of the system.
Thanks for the websites. I've started going through the Weston Price site, some succinct information there. I think my friend knows much of this and that's why she's so upset. Only she can judge how to approach Mr. Perfect.
 

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Asking for a friend whose husband is adamantly pro-vax. So much so, that non-vax might lead to divorce. Is there a safer way to comply? I have only found all or nothing advice out there. I'm talking about the infant vaccination schedule. Two month check up coming and friend is distraught. I suggested ramping up vit C it's not real clear if much extra gets passed on through breast milk.
my 94 yo granny vaccinated. feels extremely good. 2 months have passed. so Sputnik-V is not that bad. no, i don't promote vaccination :)
 

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Asking for a friend whose husband is adamantly pro-vax. So much so, that non-vax might lead to divorce.
If she has any integrity she will not give in. These zealot pro-vaxers are literally dangerous people and should be treated as such.
 

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Just tell him to please not poisin the children. I just do not get it. I am not anti vax in general, but against unneeded injections. Your child can and will get sick, normal. If they don't their immune system will be garbage.
 

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Just tell him to please not poisin the children. I just do not get it. I am not anti vax in general, but against unneeded injections. Your child can and will get sick, normal. If they don't their immune system will be garbage.
Really. I had many of these diseases, No big deal.
 

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If she has any integrity she will not give in. These zealot pro-vaxers are literally dangerous people and should be treated as such.
I can't condemn her for not fighting with her husband. I see what the anti side is saying, but I'm no expert. We all here have seen how information can be selected by experts and presented to sway the general public in so many fields. So we end up in the crossfire of dueling experts, and I am not going to condemn her for whatever she does in this situation.
 

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Really. I had many of these diseases, No big deal.

This is a ten part video series.

This is the first episode.
It is excellent. Been out since 2017.
It has both sides.
Look on lbry.TV or odysee.com for the rest.
If he is adamant the best is wait until child is three years old before getting any vaccines.
There are several books by Neil Miller

He is in the video series.
 
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There's nothing perfect about being fatally stupid.

There is no reset button for bioweapon injections. Set it and forget it.
 
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