Abortion ban: Maybe not so good?

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100 is a surprising high IQ. In that it’s a pretty much spot on average among whites. My point is you would be killing at least 50% and many of those would be conservative
This. 90 is a good mark.
 

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It’s a separate issue. Just because we don’t want to kill nigger babies doesn’t mean we don’t want to bring back segregation.
Segregation is just kicking the can down the road.

It will never work on the long term and society will always end up at this same place.
 

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I pose a question to the anti-abortion crowd, would the 92 LA riots or the 2020 riots ever had been stopped with 20+ million more negros in the country?
 

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Nah, all the soyboys are getting vasectomies over it and birth control and access to contraceptives couldn't be any higher. That's also not taking into account DIY abortions (see coathangers). So even then, niggers and other subhuman guttertrash will continue to have abortions anyways. I just like to see them angry.
 

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Abortion has been legal for what, 50+ years? And during this time the demographics has gotten the worst it has ever been. If abortion is so effective at killing black people then how did this happen? But if it's not working then why keep doing it?
Mostly it's an issue of mass importation of 10s of millions from the third world
 

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No abortion for any one. Even for nonwhites. BUT, we need to compromise. We dont need to make any decisions for anyone or pretend to know Anyones will. Nonwhites who would want an abortion can place le turd in an air “punkin chunkin” cannon aimed straight up. If they are the faultless, perfectly angelic, and morally superior beings that liberals assure us they are, they will miraculously disappear into heaven to enrich its culture. If not…….they’ll be back

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Mostly it's an issue of mass importation of 10s of millions from the third world
Yes. But if abortion had been illegal then more women would have been kept out of politics. And since Jews use childless white women to nag white men into doing what Jews want, Jews would have had less power and therefore immigration would not have reached current levels. If women would have been kept entirely out of politics we quite likely would still have whites only immigration politics. No normal white man in the 40's supported non-white immigration.

Also I apologize for pushing Christianity unto anyone. I know it always backfires and creates resentment. It only works if one accepts it with own free will.
 
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Vril Maiden 🐉, [30/06/2022 08:13]
[Forwarded from Das Volk Des Nordens]
A comment needs to be made by this channel on the issue of abortion in the United States. In the wake of the Supreme Court ruling on June 23rd, many commentators online and in the media have made known their stances against the practice of abortion. They cheer for the moral victory in preventing abortion by women of low moral character who are characterized as murdering babies. We will not wade into the morals of the topic in this post or discuss the historical perspective of Teutonic and Northern peoples on the topic from a pre-Christian perspective. We will instead provide the chief data about abortion that is vital to Americans. What has been lost in the momentary furor and celebration on the right-wing side is the reality of the racial demographic issue at hand and the social consequences that will result from the banning of abortion in the most non-White states in the country.

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Nationally, there were 13.5 abortions per 1,000 women aged 14-44. (Guttmacher Institute 2017)

Independent clinics provide 60% of abortions in the United States while Planned Parenthood provides 35% of abortions in the United States. (https://abortioncarenetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/6-infographic-poster-7-b.pdf)

The rate of abortion has decreased across all races according to the Guttmacher Institute, between 2000 and 2014. 50 per 1,000 women among Blacks in 2000, to 27.1 in 2014. From 12 per 1,000 women among Whites in 2000, to 10 in 2014. From 35 per 1,000 women among Hispanics in 2000, to 18.1 in 2014. (Guttmacher Institute)

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Data From the Centers for Disease Control (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/67/ss/ss6713a1.htm)

Pregnancies in 2010 included 3.999 million (65.0%) live births, 1.103 million (17.9%) induced abortions, and 1.053 million (17.1%) fetal losses.

For 2015, a total of 638,169 abortions were reported.
According to the most recent national estimates from 2010, 18% of all pregnancies in the United States end in induced abortion.

In 2015, women aged 20–24 and 25–29 years accounted for 31.1% and 27.6% of all reported abortions, respectively.
In 2015, women aged 15–19 years accounted for 9.8% of all reported abortions.
Women aged 15-29 accounted for 68.5% of all reported abortions.

In 2015, almost two thirds (65.4%) of abortions were performed at ≤8 weeks’ gestation, and nearly all (91.1%) were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation.
In 2015, 24.6% of all abortions were performed by early medical abortion (a nonsurgical abortion at ≤8 weeks’ gestation), 64.3% were performed by surgical abortion at ≤13 weeks’ gestation, and 8.8% were performed by surgical abortion at >13 weeks’ gestation.

In 2015, women with one or more previous live births accounted for 59.3% of abortions, and women with no previous live births accounted for 40.7%. Women with one or more previous induced abortions accounted for 41.0% of abortions, and women with no previous abortion accounted for 59.0%. Women with three or more previous births accounted for 14.2% of abortions, and women with three or more previous abortions accounted for 6.5% of abortions.
The largest percentage of abortions occurred at ≤8 weeks’ gestation.

Of reported abortions in 2015, the majority were among women with a previous birth, and a substantial proportion occurred among women with a previous induced abortion, events that are also opportunities for contraception counseling.

Non-Hispanic white women accounted for 36.9% of all abortions.
Non-Hispanic black women accounted for 36.0% of all abortions.
Hispanic women accounted for 18.5% of all abortions.
Women of other races accounted for 8.7% of all abortions.

Non-Hispanic white women had the lowest abortion rate (6.8 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years).
Non-Hispanic black women had the highest abortion rate (25.1 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years).

Abortions occurring among women who were unmarried in 2015 we between 69.0% and 91.8%.

8.2% of all abortions among Black women occurred within a marriage.
91.8% of all abortions among Black women occurred while the woman was single.
By race/ethnicity, 59.


1% of all abortions by non-Hispanic black women occurred at ≤8 weeks’ gestation.

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The following states have (as of June 25th) already banned or are set to ban abortion outright in almost all circumstances:
MT, WY, ID, UT, AZ, ND, SD, NE, OK, TX, LA, AR, MO, IA, WI, KY, MS, AL, IN, MI, OH, WV, GA, FL.

The following data is drawn from the 2020 US census data based on self-reported Black race alone. (https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table?q=Black or African American&g=0400000US01,04,05,12,13,16,18,19,21,22,26,28,29,30,31,38,39,40,45,46,47,48,49,54,55,56&tid=ACSDT5Y2020.B01001B)

There were 22,875,486 Black men and women in these states in 2020.
There were 5,104,002 Black women aged 15-44 in these states in 2020.

Given that there was an abortion rate of 25.1 abortions per 1,000 women (roughly half of the number of Black births per year) among Blacks, a further 186,672.26 Blacks can be expected to be born based on the 2020 population of women aged 15-44.

Extrapolated over the course of 20 years, phasing out by a factor of 1% the total existing breeding age population based on age and death in each year, an expected 2,064,067.19 more Blacks will be born than was previously expected.
That is a 9.02% increase in the Black population of these states, not including the regular birthrate of Blacks every year.

The average birthrate for the Black population in 2020 was 54 per 1,000 women aged 15-44.

Factoring the average birthrate in conjunction with the increased population from the lack of abortions (included at the fifteenth year onwards), results in an increase of 9,604,269.63 more Black births in the population in these states over a 20-year period on top of the population in 2020.
Combined with the 2020 census total, minus an estimated 10% due to death, the projected total Black population in these states is projected to be 30,192,207.03.

That is an increase of 131% of the Black population in these states over the next 20 years.

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Now that the data has been presented, we want to open up the mind of the reader to the ramifications of this demographic change. It is no secret that as the overall population of the US has increased, the proportion of the Black population has remained the same, at roughly 12 to 13.5% of the total from 1965 to 2020. This means that the Black population has been increasing, while the White population has been decreasing (90% in 1940 to <60% in 2020). Adding an additional 131% to the Black population of these states outlined here, where 55.5% of the Black population lived in 2020, (the Deep South, St. Louis, eastern Texas, Florida, Rust Belt cities, etc.) will mean an absolute increase of the Black population nationally, especially considering that the birthrates of Blacks in pro-abortion states are roughly the same as those in anti-abortion states. The last will of course change as Southern Blacks can no longer access abortion and so have more children than their urban counterparts.

The Black population nationwide in 2020 was 41.1 million (12.4% of the total). 55% of that population lived in the subject states. If you take the expected Black population of 30,192,207.03 and find the assumed 40% remainder of the total after 20 years (given a shift of the birthrates to these states due to lack of abortions), then you reach a total of 50,320,345.05. That would be roughly 14% of the expected 356,760,086 projected population of the US in 2040; almost entirely concentrated in wide swaths of the South and the US’s eastern urban centers. Meanwhile, the White population is expected to shrink to 50% of the total population. This does not factor the actual percentages of Blacks per each state, which will dramatically increase in the South where they are the most numerous, concentrated, and have the highest birthrates.

All in all, what the ban on abortion in these states means is a more concentrated, rising Black population competing with a shrinking and less-powerful White population in some of the last states where Whites still hold political power, nominally through the Republican Party.

In demographic terms, it’s like cutting off your legs in the middle of a relay race. Unless the White Republicans find the will to foment a final back-to-Africa emigration plan for Blacks in America, then their demographics are doomed in the South, the only region where they still have a wide block of political power.

This data doesn’t include Hispanics, Asians, or mixed-race people, all of which will also have increasing birthrates in these states, further squeezing the White population. Remember too that a far, far lower rate of White pregnancies end in abortion compared to those of color. These abortion bans will not suddenly mean a return of the White birthrate. We ask you to also look at the data above concerning what types of women are having abortions; primarily unwed, poor, young women, often with existing children via the same circumstances. These are the same factors which have degraded the Black community over decades and even centuries. The fatherlessness, poverty, and young motherhood rate among Blacks is sky high, and over 99% in the case of Black male criminals, both violent and petty. This ban on abortions threatens an even greater dysgenic socio-cultural effect than just changing racial demographics. It will force a racial, social, and economic reckoning after little-more than one generation. If the United States still exists in its current state by 2040 or 2050, then it will be a powder keg of dysfunctional, deprived, poor, violent youths of color with an intense hatred of the White youth minority.

To oppose abortion in the United States is to load the bullets into the gun of eventual White, eugenic death by a demographic, social, cultural, and economic tsunami in little more than one generation’s time. The joy you are experiencing now by forcing emotionally and socially unequipped White women and girls to take their pregnancies to term, who honestly should not be mothers from a eugenic standpoint anyway, will eventually turn to ash when your own children and grandchildren are forced to wade through a sea of hateful competitors with a birthrate three times your own.

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I see your point or Vril Maiden's point(one writing the post).

But to have a working National(right) Socialist(left) political movement in the U.S. you need the right side politically(even at the state level) and that side is made up of mostly(not all) Christians in the U.S., and you are not going to get that pushing abortion(think big picture).

I think a better way would be to promote a shot woman take that keeps them from getting prego, there by side stepping the moral issue Christians have(i also have serious issues with abortion).
The browns get it free with their welfare and healthcare payment(poor discriminated people need it).
They come in for their monthly contraceptive shot to get their welfare check.

This shot already exists(need to make it better, fine tune it), the difference is it would be free for browns, because they are "suffering". White don't get it for free, because of their privilege. or something.
We could even have a test(name it something else), if a woman's IQ is below a certain point, then they suffered to much and need a free "health benefit" to help them.

Heck you could promote tub tying free of charge for underprivileged/non-white woman, just another example of not crossing the moral issue.
Also provide free of charge vasectomies for underprivileged non-white males.
 
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While I kind of like the racism and the autistic mathematical reasoning in the OP, just thinking about this shit MAKES ME FEEL BAD.

Although I'm not really a religious person I can literally FEEL THE DIVINE INTERVENTION, the uncomfortable feeling in my stomach and the voice in my head asking; "Dude, what the eff are you thinking? You know it's wrong!"
 
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I don't think killing babies is good. I live on a farm and I've had to put down sickly young animals before and it makes my stomach sick and I feel bad when I do it, even though I have to. The idea of killing a baby, be it a white or a nigger or a Chinaman or a Mexican, would be infinitely worse to imagine.

I think a few of you guys are just an inverted version of the very suburban Reddit bugmen you would claim to detest. You don't have any real life experience with anything that is uncomfortable, so you live in your little autistic bubbles. Chopping a baby up inside the womb is fine, destroying a human soul is fine, because it might be a nigger. Yeah, you aren't real human beings if you believe that
 

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I don't think killing babies is good. I live on a farm and I've had to put down sickly young animals before and it makes my stomach sick and I feel bad when I do it, even though I have to. The idea of killing a baby, be it a white or a nigger or a Chinaman or a Mexican, would be infinitely worse to imagine.

I think a few of you guys are just an inverted version of the very suburban Reddit bugmen you would claim to detest. You don't have any real life experience with anything that is uncomfortable, so you live in your little autistic bubbles. Chopping a baby up inside the womb is fine, destroying a human soul is fine, because it might be a nigger. Yeah, you aren't real human beings if you believe that
I wish your grandpa picked his own damn cotton, wouldn't be in this mess. I remember reading on Vdare once, the average black results in a net 750k loss over a life time, if cattle were this bad and attacked your wife, stole your wallet and had such a low iq; you'd GMO them out of existance for good reason ;)
 

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While I kind of like the racism and the autistic mathematical reasoning in the OP, just thinking about this shit MAKES ME FEEL BAD.

Although I'm not really a religious person I can literally FEEL THE DIVINE INTERVENTION, the uncomfortable feeling in my stomach and the voice in my head asking; "Dude, what the eff are you thinking? You know it's wrong!"
Similar, i get incredibly wrathful about abortion, it just wells up in me.
It's the same kind of wrath i get when I see animal abuse.

My thought process on this is:
1. Abortion is not a choice, the child/life does not get a choice in the matter.
2. Tying tubs, vasectomies, and/or anti-preg shots are a choice. Or even abstinence(oh my parish the thought) is a choice too.
The deciding factor for me is choice, these people promoting abortion are not about choice at all when you break it down.

This existence is brutal enough(everything is eating something else to live here). Why would we want to make it even more brutal, with out need?
 

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The SC ruling doesn't mean much. It only nullified the silly idea the abortion is a 'constitutional right', if I understand the ruling correctly. The individual States will still do what they do, regardless of this ruling.
 
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