⚠️MEGATHREAD: DEREK CHAUVIN TRIAL-🚨JURY FINDS CHAUVIN GUILTY ON ALL 3 COUNTS

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The defense is fighting to get this May 2019 video of the arrest of George Floyd admitted into court, something the prosecution is against. In the video, it's clear that Floyd used the same tactics as he did one year later, in May of 2020, to avoid arrest
good find. This wasn't the zinger I was hoping for, though. I thought there was an earlier arrest where he swallowed his fentanyl stash after getting stopped to avoid getting charged with possession and almost died of an overdose. That would make the "overdosing yourself" gag similar to the metoo stories about producers chasing starlets around the hotel room naked, or comedians masturbating into potted plants. It's a bizarre thing this broken individual before us seems to do, over and over again, that eventually and inevitably led to their doom. This narrative is so compelling I don't see how any competing MSM / woke-city-council narrative could override it inside an NPC mind once it became established.
 

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DAY 5 DEREK CHAUVIN TRIAL-4/2/21

 

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There’s a Pastebin summary of the day to day happenings, including YouTube links to various videos of the pertinent parts of witness testimony. It’s about half a day behind (day 4 was posted just now instead of yesterday evening).

Link: https://pastebin.com/iy4j6w8i

You’ll probably have to copy and paste the links, but they’re mostly short clips to the important stuff. Real trials aren’t tv, and most of what they say is either boring, impertinent, or stuff we already know.
 

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I thought there was an earlier arrest where he swallowed his fentanyl stash after getting stopped to avoid getting charged with possession
The driver of the car was the one who tried to swallow the stash during that 2019 arrest.

Not exactly a zinger, but it could be used to show that this is a common occurrence, right?

I think the similarities of Floyd refusing to listen, spouting the same cries for he β€˜mama’ and instantly escalating both situations (saying β€˜don’t shoot me!’ within seconds) is evidence of a pattern of behavior of noncompliance.

I think showing that he’s known to repeat that β€˜mama’ line at the first sign of trouble would undermine the emotional weight the prosecution is trying to imbue it with... especially since it’s now been revealed that he may in fact be referencing his pill-head piece of pussy instead of his actual mother.
 

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Today’s testimonies.

From where I’m sitting, this guy was mostly more procedural blah blah, maybe a more apt legal eye can expound on what should be gleaned from it.

This guy apparently has some history and clout in the MN police sphere, but the defense did a good job of subtlety calling him a glorified desk jockey that’s out of touch with current procedure, or something like that.

Again, smart people, please swoop in and drop some analysis on the (half) day’s events.

Oh, and also, this dude Morries Hall (the one that can’t spell β€˜George’) has decided to plead the 5th and will not testify against Chauvin. Possibly due to Floyd’s ex-girlfriend calling him out as the guy who sold him pills.
 
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Up to this point, most of these Witnesses have had very little to do with the material facts of the case, which is the central legal question of whether or not Derek Chauvin technically caused the death of George Floyd due to his actions or was the substantial causal Factor.

The prosecution used a lot of these witnesses to introduce evidence because they want emotional people on the stand and they want to replay the clips of his death as many times as possible from every angle possible. again that is because this is a jury trial and so you are playing to the emotions of the jury members.

And when I say emotional it's not just to make the jury cry, but lawyers are also observing their emotions throughout the trial, for example you don't want the jury to get bored. they are constantly observing the jury as to how they are reacting to the evidence and seeing what is sinking in with them because it is a long trial so you want to do just the right amount that is going to stick in their minds when they enter deliberation, as it is up to them to assign significance to the witnesses testimonies.

The defense could be objecting a lot more than they are but their tactic is because you don't want the jury to form a negative impression of the defense lawyer, before it's his turn to bring forth his own Witnesses for the defense. it's about choosing your battles wisely and it's not a very good look if he is objecting to every single witness, even though he has reasonable grounds to do so. if there is a witness that doesn't support your side, youre just trying to get them off the stand as quickly as possible.

The homicide detective Zimmerman today was a pretty good Witness for the prosecution by getting him to say that a knee on the neck is uncalled for in his experience, but the defense did a good cross examination saying, well you haven't been on the street in years and you haven't had to use force in a long time and you're not actually a police trainer. my guess is the defense has a good witness on their side they will bring out later who will testify that Derek Chauvin was taught that technique with the knee to restrain a suspect.

The witnesses that are going to matter most are those that will testify to the medical cause of death of George such as toxicologists, other medical professionals, and the autopsy.

but if you're the prosecution you want the jury to have all those other things in their mind when they are presented with the evidence that George died of an overdose. you want them to have already formed in their mind the image of Derek being a mean guy.
 

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it helps the prosecution to have emotional sobbing witnesses, to humanize George. they surely coached her ahead of time "to cry if you need to"

She is being used to pivot the narrative from "drug addict" to "struggling with addiction". Keep in mind this is all to try and influence the jurors to put emotion over the very clear facts of the case
Yes. Learned later prosecution simply trying to steal what they knew would be serious defense thunder, by putting her on first.
 

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I couldn't figure out how to load a funny youtube video of Saint Bootlip, it's a thirty second music video clip with the banana dance, type in George Floyd banana dance, scroll down to post by a guy named atom waffles, good tune and fun mix.
I found Samsung OS much easier to transfer things. Having troubles myself. Moto a big mistake. I'll look for it.
Edit: Atom Waffle? Great.
 
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Atom Waffles, clever mocking of the banana loosie guy.
 

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I find it difficult to believe there will be unanimous guilty verdicts in this case. At least 1 person will notice that the autopsy report showed that the neck kneeling had nothing to do with the death. Which suggests a mistrial and a retrial. I also read that even if found not guilty, he could face federal charges on top (murder is a state charge). Presumably that means federal hate crime charges, although those are blatantly unconstitutional. This man will be in the court system for a decade.
 

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If I were the defence attorney, I'd lie on the floor and get a policeman to kneel on my neck in the approved manner for 8 minutes - and show the jury that this does not restrict the airflow. It can be demonstrated right there and then.
 

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Defense counsel landed a good body punch a few minutes ago. He got the police chief to admit that the defendant's knee was on St. George's shoulder and not his neck for at least part of the video. Well done.

This shit is booooorrrrrrriiiiiiiiing.
 

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My observation/understanding is that by buying a single banana nigger can basically launder a fake 20 and walk away with 18-19 bucks to score a hit. What a role model.
 

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continually impressed by the defense counsel Eric Nelson. It is not easy to be the only attorney in the room for your client, having to master the witness list and be prepared for their testimony for every single person who's going to come to the stand. He gets help from his firm outside the courtroom, but its still tough to stay sharp for a month long trial and he's holding his own.

that is in comparison to the prosecution which has had 4 lawyers for the state cycling in rotation, taking turns in the courtroom each preparing individually for different Witnesses with the ability to rest for hours in between.

today was boring overall, but the thing that stood out to me that was pretty funny was when the defense asked the emergency room doctor about the dangers of rectally consuming drugs.😯🀣 The other day they had mentioned that while being arrested, George said "I was hooping earlier" on the body cam footage, which is apparently slang for shoving drugs up your ass.

Urban Dictionary: hooping http://hooping.urbanup.com/463718#.YGun9cXgblw.twitter

This fact of the case is being buried by the media but I think the defense will bring it up again, during the toxicology report and maybe more times before including it in closing. Lol
 

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DEREK CHAUVIN TRIALβ€” WEEK 2, DAY 7- 4/6/21
 

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Morries Hall (who was with George in the store and in the car; red hat/red pants guy) appeared virtually in court, about his 5th Amendment plea, trying to quash a subpoena for his testimony. He is currently in jail for charges unrelated to this case.

His attorneys argued he could easily be put at risk of being charged with third-degree murder charges and drug possession charges if he were to testify.

George's girlfriend Courteney Ross previously testified that Morries Hall was George's drug dealer who gave them fentanyl-meth pills. Hall fled from MN a few days after the incident and was apprehended in TX by the Texas Rangers.

The Judge said that attorneys for both defense and prosecutions, could probably question him more narrowly so as to avoid an instance of self-incrimination. Sothe judge asked Chauvin's defense to draft potential questions for Hall that the judge will review later this week.

So... he may still be compelled to testify, or else he would be held in contempt. this would be bad for prosecution and good for defense as it keeps in the jury's mind that this is a drug-related death and not a choking related death.

EDIT: here is the full video of Morries Hall in court.
 
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Morries Hall (who was with George in the store and in the car; red hat/red pants guy) appeared virtually in court, about his 5th Amendment plea, trying to quash a subpoena for his testimony. He is currently in jail for charges unrelated to this case.

His attorneys argued he could easily be put at risk of being charged with third-degree murder charges and drug possession charges if he were to testify.

George's girlfriend Courteney Ross previously testified that Morries Hall was George's drug dealer who gave them fentanyl-meth pills. Hall fled from MN a few days after the incident and was apprehended in TX by the Texas Rangers.

The Judge said that attorneys for both defense and prosecutions, could probably question him more narrowly so as to avoid an instance of self-incrimination. Sothe judge asked Chauvin's defense to draft potential questions for Hall that the judge will review later this week.

So... he may still be compelled to testify, or else he would be held in contempt. this would be bad for prosecution and good for defense as it keeps in the jury's mind that this is a drug-related death and not a choking related death.



Hell yeah. Bring it on.
 
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