⚠️MEGATHREAD: DEREK CHAUVIN TRIAL-🚨JURY FINDS CHAUVIN GUILTY ON ALL 3 COUNTS

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Those are YouTube superchats. I guess you don't spend much time on YouTube livestreams? It's a pretty normal thing now, but yeah--it's a grift.

While Barnes is talking, if you look at Frei you'll see he's monitoring the chat to bring up questions and comments he wants everyone to see. Obviously if you pay money for a superchat he's more likely to showcase your question/comment, but in fairness he does bring up some unpaid comments as well.
Yeah I’ve never done one of those so I had no idea what was going on.

But still, even they bring up unpaid comments, how insane is it to pay to have a comment displayed?

It’s like, β€œhey, goy, don’t you want everyone to know how cool and smart you are by seeing your question on screen? All the goyls love cool guys who watch legal streams and post cool questions. Maybe they’ll DM you, goy. Only 5 dollahs a comment, goy. Only 25 cents a keystroke goy. Only 10 cents a vowel, goy.”
 

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They’ve been deliberating for over 8 hours now β€” beginning to wonder if this is going to drag out....
 

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This is just insane and ridiculous:
President Biden called the family of George Floyd on Monday, as the White House braces for the verdict in the trial of Derek Chauvin, the former police officer charged in Floyd's death. The jury began deliberations after the conclusion of closing arguments on Monday, and continued on Tuesday morning.

Mr. Biden told reporters on Tuesday that he has come to know Floyd's family, and waited to call until the jury entered deliberations.

"I can only imagine the pressure and the anxiety they're feeling," he said. "They're a good family and they're calling for peace and tranquility."

Mr. Biden said that he is praying the verdict is the "right" verdict.
 

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I imagine the one white man on the jury is saying 'Not guilty' and all the others are shouting and screaming at him.
 

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They’ve been deliberating for over 8 hours now β€” beginning to wonder if this is going to drag out....
A jury does not just decide in a couple hours typically. I think this case would reasonably take longer due to the gravity.

They have to do a few technical discussions about the charges and if the evidence supports each; there are three separate charges.

So after they appoint a foreman they would do a straw poll to see where they stand, and then go from there. They may decide to take their time and be precise rather than rush. And then of course there could be disagreement so they will review the evidence that has been given to them on a laptop, or ask the judge a legal question which takes time because the judge has to consult with attorneys from each side before he answers the jury.

Also, if the jury reaches a verdict in the evening, the judge has decided to hold it over until the next day, so that there will not be a verdict delivered before nightfall (to potentially mitigate intense protests)
 

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A jury does not just decide in a couple hours typically. I think this case would reasonably take longer due to the gravity.

They have to do a few technical discussions about the charges and if the evidence supports each; there are three separate charges.

So after they appoint a foreman they would do a straw poll to see where they stand, and then go from there. They may decide to take their time and be precise rather than rush. And then of course there could be disagreement so they will review the evidence that has been given to them on a laptop, or ask the judge a legal question which takes time because the judge has to consult with attorneys from each side before he answers the jury.

Also, if the jury reaches a verdict in the evening, the judge has decided to hold it over until the next day, so that there will not be a verdict delivered before nightfall (to potentially mitigate intense protests)
Yeah, I guess it was too much to expect, that 5 or 6 hours would be enough. 😞
 

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Here is the stream from Good Luck America. This guy is an ex-cop, former police defensive tactics instructor, and pretty damn funny too.

 

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The longer the deliberations the better. If a jury comes back with a verdict soon it usually means they found him guilty.
Sadly, it’s the opposite: πŸ˜”


It is natural to wonder how long the jury might take to reach a verdict. Quick verdicts generally favor the defendant. As hours stretch on, it signals that jurors are taking evidence seriously and consider the evidence to have at least some validity.

This deep study of verdicts says the reason that convictions often take longer is that the burden of proof is on the prosecution.


Since the burden of proof is on the prosecution in a criminal trial and on the plaintiff in a civil dispute, juries that find in favor of the state (in criminal trials) or the plaintiff (in civil trials) may take longer on average. As a result, we suspect that cases that end up with a criminal conviction or a finding in favor of the plaintiff ought to take longer than those that end in an acquittal or a civil finding for the respondent.
 

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This is just insane and ridiculous:

So much for a pretense of being fair and objective, and respecting the deliberation process:
Biden says β€œevidence is overwhelming”
 

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Longer it goes the better the odds
 

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So much for a pretense of being fair and objective, and respecting the deliberation process:
Biden says β€œevidence is overwhelming”
Can't they throw the trial out on the basis of this?
 

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Can't they throw the trial out on the basis of this?
If we were in a sane country, of course. That’s very incendiary if they ruled β€˜Not Guilty’. It could be viewed as incitement to riot. But you and I both know there’s no sanity here at this point.
 

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I predict a Friday after-lunch verdict.
Hoping you’re correct, as I just read it could go through the weekend, and possibly on for weeks.
 

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If we were in a sane country, of course. That’s very incendiary if they ruled β€˜Not Guilty’. It could be viewed as incitement to riot. But you and I both know there’s no sanity here at this point.
Surely if the 'president' comes out and says they expect a certain outcome, it prejudices the trial. This is absurd.
 
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